You don't need an overpowered and non-canon version of Goku to defeat this version of Ichigo. Honestly, even 23rd Budokai Goku can beat any version of him with a Kamehameha right off the bat. The range and AoE of most DB characters' blasts are enough to beat any of the HST-verses, regardless of what unorthodox abilities they have. Kid Goku would be a different story but other than that, Ichigo is hopeless.
I want Goku at his best which is ssj3. Ichigo cut iron thicker than Goku's body, and it was done easy. Ichigo wins because there's no way Goku can deflect his attacks. He'll avoid most of the fight until he is hit, and Ichigo himself can take a hit. Lets keep it at can Goku take a hit from Ichigo, if he can, than he gains the advantage, if can't, Ichigo takes the match. There's is no purpose in fighting if you're going to be on the defense, and Goku has no way of knowing how strong and easy it is he can cut through ssj3 Goku.
Originally posted by dvampireActually Goku can punch Ichigo's head off at the start of the fight.
I want Goku at his best which is ssj3. Ichigo cut iron thicker than Goku's body, and it was done easy. Ichigo wins because there's no way Goku can deflect his attacks. He'll avoid most of the fight until he is hit, and Ichigo himself can take a hit. Lets keep it at can Goku take a hit from Ichigo, if he can, than he gains the advantage, if can't, Ichigo takes the match. There's is no purpose in fighting if you're going to be on the defense, and Goku has no way of knowing how strong and easy it is he can cut through ssj3 Goku.
A punch from Goku has more power than any attack in Bleach.
Also, iron? Are you ****ing high? Goku's punches level landscapes, as do those he fights, and you have the audacity to bring up Ichigo cutting iron as proof that he can cut Goku?
Originally posted by Samurai100
Make it 22nd Budokai Goku, Then Ichigo should have a feasible chance of winning, despite the speed difference
Explain your claim? Because Ichigo can beat ssj3 Goku. If you believe in Goku's ability, then don't coware away by limiting Goku's ability to make him out to be superior. Explain how Goku survives a cut from Ichigo? Lets keep it on Goku's defense against Ichigo's cutting attacks.
Originally posted by dvampire
Explain your claim? Because Ichigo can beat ssj3 Goku. If you believe in Goku's ability, then don't coware away by limiting Goku's ability to make him out to be superior. Explain how Goku survives a cut from Ichigo? Lets keep it on Goku's defense against Ichigo's cutting attacks.
Ichigo can beat SSJ3 Goku because he can cut through iron? Well the above video shows Goku casually blocking a character stronger than Ichigo(and faster but not really the point), based on his ability to slice through the skin of someone who could survive the explosion of a planet.
So offensively, Ichigo won't hurt Goku. Mind, this implies he'll be able to hit Goku. Mind, this implies Goku will let him get close since Goku can use Ki to fight from a distance. Mind, this all comes from the assumption that the superior calced Goku won't just casually knock Ichigo out with one punch.
Originally posted by dvampire
Explain your claim? Because Ichigo can beat ssj3 Goku. If you believe in Goku's ability, then don't coware away by limiting Goku's ability to make him out to be superior. Explain how Goku survives a cut from Ichigo? Lets keep it on Goku's defense against Ichigo's cutting attacks.
I don't quite understand you. Do you by any chance hate Goku? First you make a thread about Goku which you think the opponent (Superman) would stomp Goku, and now you said Ichigo can beat Goku?
The video above should explain what would Goku do to Ichigo if Ichigo fight Goku and I think, Goku doesn't even need to go SSJ if the opponent is Ichigo. Let me know when Ichigo is capable of destroying at least, a moon. Even if he could, a moon busting attack didn't hurt a pipsqueak like Raditz or Nappa. And you tried to compare Ichigo to Goku?
Originally posted by Kirikaze Fuuma
I don't quite understand you. Do you by any chance hate Goku? First you make a thread about Goku which you think the opponent (Superman) would stomp Goku, and now you said Ichigo can beat Goku?The video above should explain what would Goku do to Ichigo if Ichigo fight Goku and I think, Goku doesn't even need to go SSJ if the opponent is Ichigo. Let me know when Ichigo is capable of destroying at least, a moon. Even if he could, a moon busting attack didn't hurt a pipsqueak like Raditz or Nappa. And you tried to compare Ichigo to Goku?
You don't understand because you're not debating fairly, you're not proving anything, just listing characters Goku can beat in his universe, doesn't mean he'll do the same in Bleach. Can ssj3 take a cutting attack from Ichigo? You're avoiding it, which means you're not confident in ssj3 Goku's ability to win. Just saying he would win without any shown evidence is proof that you would rather evade the question in oder for ssj3 Goku to win. Ichigo cuts through iron like butter, he'll easily cut through ssj3 Goku. That's my claim, can ssj3 Goku survive being cut by Ichigo?
Originally posted by AuraAngel
YouTube videoWhat would happen if Goku didn't try to win.
And then Ichigo tires out.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nA8fFLlwLEs
Ichigo is stronger than ssj2 Gohan and can cut through pillars of steel and ssj3 Goku won't be given the chance to put ki into a specific part of his body. He doesn't have natural durability to take a cutting attack from Ichigo. And Gohan won't be able to break Ichigo's sword.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3FiJlRte_Go
There's a huge difference in power.
Originally posted by dvampire
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nA8fFLlwLEsIchigo is stronger than ssj2 Gohan and can cut through pillars of steel and ssj3 Goku won't be given the chance to put ki into a specific part of his body. He doesn't have natural durability to take a cutting attack from Ichigo. And Gohan won't be able to break Ichigo's sword.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3FiJlRte_Go
There's a huge difference in power.
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Are you high? Dabura's slashes are way, way more impressive the cutting some guys stupid axes.
Why are you even linking us to a Gohan fight to begin with? You want to see how Goku stands up to swords? Look at the video you quoted. Goku literally does nothing but block a sword. Cutting through iron is a feat equivalent to cutting through plastic compared to the crap DBZ characters can do. Unless your video was to imply that because Dabura cut some of Gohan's hair, Ichigo can cut Goku's hair?
But yeah, to wrap things up: Goku is harder(blocks a sword from a guy who can cut a being capable of surviving of planet explosion), better(Ichigo's best showing near as I can tell was cutting off a section of a hill, Goku can do that in his sleep), faster(mach 10 vs...well Tao was apparently 14 so use your imagination on how fast Goku is), stronger than Ichigo(casual mountain busting>>>cutting through axes) and can kill him pretty much whenever in the fight. Never mind him actually using a ki blast.