Originally posted by deathcon27
actuallu i could see goku at ssj2 losing. first of all is that although hes at a planet busting level it still is a large amount of energy required and any other attacks other than planet busters usually dont drastically change the landscape.as for ichigo, we never saw the full extent of his mature forms power for all we now he could use the arrancar mask and another thing is i think if he had not used the final getsugatenshou he could have recieved a third release for his hollow form becuase his 2nd release just alowed him arrancar abilities and the 3rd would be his resurrecion heck he could even have a 4th release or in other words a 2nd resurrecion like ulquiora did im pretty sure if he had a resurrecion plus his bankai in his mature form he could take down a ssj goku maybe even a ssj2 goku plus lets also not forget that getsugatenshou can be used in many different ways ichigo only knows how to use it as an offensive attack in 3 different ways and the final getsugatenshou but it can be used other ways as well
well he did use FGT do actually there is no way he can beat goku people also say that since he can cut through iron like butter he can cut through goku and win well look at trunks also a ssj (also planet busting) he came at him with all he had and goku blocked it with his index finger so please people if you want to put facts on this please make sure they are right and please tell me a form (any form) that ichigo has that can beat goku like hell he couldn't have defeted aizen if that guy didint use the seal. the only 2 ways that ichigo could win is if goku suddenly gets a heart attack and dies (good luck with that) or because the creators of bleach do their thing and give ichigo another stupid power up like hell they would probably even let ichigo access ssj cuz they know he is gonna get his ass beat so bad so they give him that extra boost but even with that goku would still wipe the floor with any of the bleach characters
if there was a legit video of how the fight would go it would last 20 seconds 10 seconds for the intro 2 seconds for the fight (goku just blows his head off and wins) and the rest of the time for the out tro
my point here is what was the point in even having this argument because you are basically putting a new born baby against a pro wrestler
and even if ichigo could cut through him (like butter) goku has the after image so basically the DBZ substitute from naruto
Originally posted by yungz22
dc wise saiyan saga goku that fought vegeta is enough because at that point they are pb levelhonestly ichi wouldnt be able to hurt goku because of durability as well
Goku doesn't start the fight off using planet busting power. Never has and never will. Goku tends to enjoy going fist cuff. It has always been his style and Ichigo is powerful enough imo to beat any Z fighter before the Frieza saga.
Originally posted by carver9
Goku doesn't start the fight off using planet busting power. Never has and never will. Goku tends to enjoy going fist cuff. It has always been his style and Ichigo is powerful enough imo to beat any Z fighter before the Frieza saga.
Mmh... No, he does. He just compresses it, so it doesn't destroy the surroundings. How many times will you need to learn this, Carver? This has been a MAJOR plot point since Dragon Ball.
Radditz. Solo's. 👆
Originally posted by NemeBroIf we're being fair here, Ichigo's attacks have also leveled landscapes.
Actually Goku can punch Ichigo's head off at the start of the fight.A punch from Goku has more power than any attack in Bleach.
Also, iron? Are you ****ing high? Goku's punches level landscapes, as do those he fights, and you have the audacity to bring up Ichigo cutting iron as proof that he can cut Goku?
The air touching the landscapes leveled them, even.
Originally posted by carver9
Goku will not start his attack off with planet busting power.
The weakest attacks Goku has are above planet busting capacity. Even his regular jabs are universe level, at SSJG.
So stfu 👆
Originally posted by Jmanghan
If we're being fair here, Ichigo's attacks have also leveled landscapes.The air touching the landscapes leveled them, even.
To be fair, the instance you're talking about barely cut the top off a hill.
And being more fair, Goku's SSJG punches nearly destroyed the entire universe, just from the mere shockwaves they produced.
Originally posted by SSJGGogeta
The weakest attacks Goku has are above planet busting capacity. Even his regular jabs are universe level, at SSJG.So stfu 👆
To be fair, the instance you're talking about barely cut the top off a hill.
And being more fair, Goku's SSJG punches nearly destroyed the entire universe, just from the mere shockwaves they produced.
LOL, WTF?!!!
Originally posted by SSJGGogeta
The weakest attacks Goku has are above planet busting capacity. Even his regular jabs are universe level, at SSJG.So stfu 👆
To be fair, the instance you're talking about barely cut the top off a hill.
And being more fair, Goku's SSJG punches nearly destroyed the entire universe, just from the mere shockwaves they produced.
Why so hostile bro and I'm not even talking about Super Saiyan God...reread my previous posts.
Originally posted by carver9
Why so hostile bro and I'm not even talking about Super Saiyan God...reread my previous posts.
Your previous posts aren't what I'm talking about here. The thread is purposefully taking Goku at his peak. Which would be SSJG. And my point is that even a casual ki blast from base Goku at that point was well beyond planet busting. In fact, even if it was only 1/1,000th as strong as his punch, it'd still be multi-solar system level. And that's base form.
Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Gogeta is right here.SsJ 3 punched a whole through Kai's planet with ease.
His SSG powers at peak were universal.
That part was retconned in Super, wasn't it?
But either way, it doesn't matter. Goku is literally at the point of destroying the universe as a side-effect of doing battle. Ichigo still isn't moon level.