Originally posted by biensalsa
Some of those GL's were actually known, but yes, they are not your average comic book GL.But Hulk or Thor soloing YAT?
That will be debatable even if it was Gl Yat.
There is a lot of characters who have better feats prior power up than after power up. but even so you take the face value of someone saying they are more powerful than before, why you can't do the same with Yat?
I don't think Ion Yat is that powerful, tbh, but to think Hulk can solo him? I doubt he could even solo GL Yat, as his few feats put him at a very high tier, add that some extra juice and this two are not soloing ION Yat. As a team yes, but alone I'll think Ion Yat will win more often than not.
So, if you can power imply for WWH who has lesser feats than some other Hulk, why You can't power imply for ION Yat?
This is what everyone here is missing.
Although I would say Hulk has zero chance of soloing GL Yat. Thor maybe gets 2 or 3/10 against GL Yat, and 0/10 against Ion.
Originally posted by keiththegreatThor has a whole history of fights where he hasn't been oneshotted and recently took out an amped Hulk and the Thing. Yat isn't Superman either and didn't do anything impressive by any stretch compared to Thor's resume.
Well, most people think Superman takes the majority against Thor. Give Superman a GL ring and it's not even debatable. 2 wins might be generous. Hell, Yat could probably one-shot current Thor. Who hasn't tbh.
Originally posted by keiththegreat
Well, most people think Superman takes the majority against Thor. Give Superman a GL ring and it's not even debatable. 2 wins might be generous. Hell, Yat could probably one-shot current Thor. Who hasn't tbh.
That right here is exactly what's wrong with some of the arguments supporting Yat.
Yat isn't "Superman with a GL ring". He has no feats that even put him close to Superman's best nor does he get the benefit of essentially being allowed to have Superman's feats projected on to him because of his power-set.
Yat's GL feats are meh and even as Ion he doesn't have the feats that Kyle Rayner has with just his power ring.
So, no, arguing Yat as being "Superman with a GL ring" isn't going to work, because honestly, it's a crap argument. And as far as most people's line of thought goes, Thor takes a healthy majority against most Lanterns one on one, and Yat didn't display enough of physicality with his Daxamite stats to suggest anything like him beating Thor for the majority.
Using characters at their best as they're consistently portrayed as their entire history suggests, like the rules state, Yat isn't one shotting Thor. Unless you'd like to ignore all of the times Thor hasn't been one shot, which is quite a list as compared to the times he has.
Originally posted by JakeTheBankSo, no, arguing Yat as being "Superman with a GL ring" isn't going to work, because honestly, it's a crap argument. And as far as most people's line of thought goes, Thor takes a healthy majority against most Lanterns one on one, and Yat didn't display enough of physicality with his Daxamite stats to suggest anything like him beating Thor for the majority.
This is the problem with your argument. Notice what I underlined. This is true. So with that said, how is Thor going toe to toe with someone (Ion) who's proven to be in the same league as Prime. A Prime who shitted on teams of lanterns like this group. Guy among them:
You said Yat didn't display enough physicality but fact is he did in his fight with Prime. He was shown to be effective whereas heralds such as Superman (repeatedly I might add) were cast aside & treated as a minor nuisance. And Clark is a definitive matchup for Thor alone right? Yat was shown to be effective, even while being depowered, whereas even a combined Guardian assault was''nt.
Thor is not beating Ion for a majority. He won't even last as long as a depowered Ion did against Prime.
Now you can point out PIS filled moments like the Connor fight (of which you admitted Connor is his kryptonite) to support your case but it would be inapplicable compared to all the numerous high showings vs teams/heralds/Guardians etc. So don't hang your hat so high on PIS filled showings to discredit Prime. Nor should you hang your hat so high on absence of feats to discredit Yats performance and display of power against Prime. Power that made a very visible impact during the midst of him being depowered in the process. These facts cannot be dismissed or ignored.
Originally posted by Sundipped
This is the problem with your argument. Notice what I underlined. This is true. So with that said, how is Thor going toe to toe with someone (Ion) who's proven to be in the same league as Prime. A Prime who shitted on [B]teams of lanterns like this group. Guy among them:You said Yat didn't display enough physicality but fact is he did in his fight with Prime. He was shown to be effective whereas heralds such as Superman (repeatedly I might add) were cast aside & treated as a minor nuisance. And Clark is a definitive matchup for Thor alone right? Yat was shown to be effective, even while being depowered, whereas even a combined Guardian assault was''nt.
Thor is not beating Ion for a majority. He won't even last as long as a depowered Ion did against Prime.
Now you can point out PIS filled moments like the Connor fight (of which you admitted Connor is his kryptonite) to support your case but it would be inapplicable compared to all the numerous high showings vs teams/heralds/Guardians etc. So don't hang your hat so high on PIS filled showings to discredit Prime. Nor should you hang your hat so high on absence of feats to discredit Yats performance and display of power against Prime. Power that made a very visible impact during the midst of him being depowered in the process. These facts cannot be dismissed or ignored. [/B]
Thor kick Yat's ass by himself. Just because Prime had a PIS moment with Yat it doesn't mean Yat is even close time Prime. Prime still punk that Kryptonian wannabe.
