Odin runs the Trans Tier/Low Skyfather gauntlet...

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Even if it was the multiverse, that is too extreme for a mere Celestial level character...

But yeah, I agree with you about the inconsistancies; it almost seems as consistency and logic have no place in a Marvel Comic...

Yeah I agree that it is too extreme , just as a trans-multiversal feat is WAY TOO extreme for Cube Beings like Beyonder and MM , while mutiverse shaking should be EXTREMELY impossible for skyfathers like Odin and Seth , but as zop said , we have to accept things as they are at Marvel .

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
I appreciate the scale of things very well and thats exactly why I cant accept Odin being a Galaxy Buster...

Celestials are alledgedly "several oders of magnitude" beyond Cube Beings (I think Kubiks feat is PIS as well btw) and since a Cube Being can reality warp on a universal scale I guess a lone Celestial could effortlessly reality warp no less than 100 resisting universes...

Sounds very PIS'y...doesnt it? Why? Because it is...

Cube Beings arent that strong and Celestials definitely arent that strong...

Before you accept a high end feat as not being saturated with PIS, think hard about what it means for the Tiers of Power beyond a given character before reaching your decision...

Also, your attempt at powerscaling is laughable. One needn't need to be capable of effortlessly warping a hundred universes to be a few tiers above someone who can warp one with effort.

Originally posted by NemeBro
There are multiple universe+ showings of Cube level beings. Kubik, Beyonder, Molecule Man, etc.

Also, your attempt at powerscaling is laughable. One needn't need to be capable of effortlessly warping a hundred universes to be a few tiers above someone who can warp one with effort.

Yeah and either those universe+ showings of Cube Beings are extreme PIS or a lone Celestial being several orders of magnitude (you do know what this means dont you!?) more powerful than Cube Beings is extreme PIS...so which is it?

As for my "attempt" at power scaling, several here agree with me and see the logic in what I say...too bad you arent capable of seeing it for yourself.

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Even if it was the multiverse, that is too extreme for a mere Celestial level character...

But yeah, I agree with you about the inconsistancies; it almost seems as consistency and logic have no place in a Marvel Comic...

I just re-read my issue of F4#582 , and it definitely was the multiverse .

Originally posted by TheGodKiller
Mad Jim Jaspers being explicitly described as being an omniversal level power should also be PIS then .

And I think it was only the multiverse , not the omniverse .

Edit : you should know it by now that Marvel has developed a penchant for being grossly inconsistent with character feats and portrayal. Just look at what Fraction did to Thor's characterization . He butchered it . Sometimes I can't help but think that Marvel does what it does just to spite their fans . And Brevoort's proud proclamation that the AVX event was gonna piss off many(which is exactly what it did) is proof of that .

Agreed. Simonson brought Thor to a level of unparalleled greatness; and DeFalco did a nice job of following up on that. When TD left, though, things seriously went out of control. And Fraction somehow managed to make things worse!