Snowbird Vs WW Hulk

Started by Stoic16 pages

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
I know Banner was the Hulk - lol, you really think you're the only one who knows Hulk comics?

My point was - Banner said that Herc had a chance of beating him.

You then responded by saying, well, guess what, Banner also said Thor had no chance of beating him.

I was then merely trying to figure out why you would bring that up, considering you were trying to defend your stance.

If you really knew Hulk, and followed him throughout the years, you would know that he held back the entire time during WW Hulk. He was nerfed beyond reason was what I thought while reading WW Hulk. His power levels on Sakaar were far higher than they were when he came back to Earth. I really thought that the writer had messed up, until I read how he was holding back the entire time. This includes the little scuffle that he had with Herc, and how easily Herc was bruised by a couple of his hits, to his battle with Zom Strange, to his fight with the Sentry. He held back the entire time iirc. There really isn't much to discuss here.

There is no case that can be presented that can separate WW Hulk, Green Scar, Green King, World Breaker. They are all the same character, with the same mind set, but just Banner at different levels of power. Snowbird may be able to match him up til certain levels, but he can take it up to levels that she can not follow.

This is a good fight all the way up until he says phuck this shyt you're dead.

So you feel Hulk is more powerful then Elder Gods?

So you feel Hulk could halt the Choas King and his god army as the Great Beasts did? That's the power Snowbird can take it too.

She also has an attack that stopped the Great Beasts in one move, which allowed the Chaos King to kill them. You feel Hulk can break out of the attack that stopped a pantheon of gods that was killing other panteon of other gods PLUS fighting the Choas King and were winning?

Originally posted by -K-M-
So you feel Hulk is more powerful then Elder Gods?

So you feel Hulk could halt the Choas King and his god army as the Great Beasts did? That's the power Snowbird can take it too.

She also has an attack that stopped the Great Beasts in one move, which allowed the Chaos King to kill them. You feel Hulk can break out of the attack that stopped a pantheon of gods that was killing other panteon of other gods PLUS fighting the Choas King and were winning?

If I recall correctly the Hulk did just as good of a job against the Chaos Kings minions as Snowbird did, and since he was on Earth with billions of lives at stake, he was holding back.

Where in all of their appearances did the Great Beasts do anything as impressive as popping planets with a punch? In Nevada he was about to drop his foot, and it says that just because he does not destroy the planet with such ease, does not mean that he could not. If we go off of hyperbole, and how impressive the name Great Beast rolls from the tongue, then sure Snow Bird may be able to contend with Odin, but we all know the truth. She's not that powerful. She's powerful, but would be defeated if the Hulk went world breaker in a neutral settings, and was hitting her like he wanted to kill her.

She's not putting him down that's for sure. What would she put him down with? A plague of mosquitoes? A blizzard? a 500 foot tall approximation of a Great Beast? What?

Can somebody point out exactly where Hulk destroyed planets?
Where did this happen and which Hulk was it?
I just want to be sure that I am remembering the facts right.
Thanks.

Originally posted by Stoic
If I recall correctly the Hulk did just as good of a job against the Chaos Kings minions as the Hulk did, and since he was on Earth with billions of lives at stake, he was holding back.

Where in all of their appearances did the Great Beasts do anything as impressive as popping planets with a punch? In Nevada he was about to drop his foot, and it says that just because he does not destroy the planet with such ease, does not mean that he could not. If we go off of hyperbole, and how impressive the name Great Beast rolls from the tongue, then sure Snow Bird may be able to contend with Odin, but we all know the truth. She's not that powerful. She's powerful, but would be defeated if the Hulk went world breaker in a neutral settings, and was hitting her like he wanted to kill her.

She's not putting him down that's for sure. What would she put him down with? A plague of mosquitoes? A blizzard? a 500 foot tall approximation of a Great Beast? What?

You recall incorrectly, he was taking on a few not the entire army nor was CK fighting him. If you seriously believe Hulk did just as good as the Great Beasts did you are a joke

and when did Hulk do that? The GB Killed an entire universe, are embodiments of death and decay on earth, powered up 4 people to be planet busters, a being that fought the Ancient One (Dr.Strange's master) and who Dr.Strange himself was terrified of and said he was unsure if he could beat him (even before Mauvais upgrade) was terrified of the Great Beasts and he became their pet, one great beast was killing beings that seriously hurt Atum/Demogorge, Tanaraq commands Surtur's demon horde, Ranark the Ravanger is their disciple, etc. Actually, have you read anything of them?

haha what? Do you even know what attack Im talking about? As mentioned her attack stopped a patheon a patheon that was taking on the Chaos King and his entire god army and was winning. Nice low-ball.

Originally posted by -K-M-
You recall incorrectly, he was taking on a few not the entire army nor was CK fighting him. If you seriously believe Hulk did just as good as the Great Beasts did you are a joke

and when did Hulk do that? The GB Killed an entire universe, are embodiments of death and decay on earth, powered up 4 people to be planet busters, a being that fought the Ancient One (Dr.Strange's master) and who Dr.Strange himself was terrified of and said he was unsure if he could beat him (even before Mauvais upgrade) was terrified of the Great Beasts and he became their pet, one great beast was killing beings that seriously hurt Atum/Demogorge, Tanaraq commands Surtur's demon horde, Ranark the Ravanger is their disciple, etc. Actually, have you read anything of them?

haha what? Do you even know what attack Im talking about? As mentioned her attack stopped a patheon a patheon that was taking on the Chaos King and his entire god army and was winning. Nice low-ball.

All of that is fine and dandy, but the Hulk would beat the living shyt out of Snowbird with CIS off, if he took the fight to her immediately. I have not read everything concerning Alpha Flight like you have, but I do know that Snow Bird with her few higher end feats had plot and time to do many of them. The Hulk would get to her in fractions of a second, and ruin all of those neat little ideas that you seemingly believe will be the trump card here. The point is that he doesn't have to let her do anything at all.

Originally posted by Stoic
All of that is fine and dandy, but the Hulk would beat the living shyt out of Snowbird with CIS off, if he took the fight to her immediately. I have not read everything concerning Alpha Flight like you have, but I do know that Snow Bird with her few higher end feats had plot and time to do many of them. The Hulk would get to her in fractions of a second, and ruin all of those neat little ideas that you seemingly believe will be the trump card here. The point is that he doesn't have to let her do anything at all.

So what it comes down to you really dont have anything to back you up this is just your opinion. But now your arguement is Hulk will speedblitz Snowbird? ......wow

@Stoic

If she can really morph into any of the Great Beasts on the fly (and assuming when she morphs into said Beast she assumes it's full power), this could get ugly fast for the Hulk (or anyone else under Trans Tier).

It should also be acknowledged that the Hulk while in the Dark dimension showed huge resistances to magic, and many other resistances. What would Snowbird do if her attacks were ineffective? Dr. Strange? He was fearful of the Hulk's return to Earth as well. Big deal, and the Hulk was holding back. You know what Strange feared? We saw it in the Dark Dimension, he feared Banner releasing that kind of power on the Earth.

Originally posted by Stoic
It should also be acknowledged that the Hulk while in the Dark dimension showed huge resistances to magic, and many other resistances. What would Snowbird do if her attacks were ineffective? Dr. Strange? He was fearful of the Hulk's return to Earth as well. Big deal, and the Hulk was holding back. You know what Strange feared? We saw it in the Dark Dimension, he feared Banner releasing that kind of power on the Earth.

It also should be acknowledged at the hight of World Breaker Umar came in and easily stopped Hulk. Ummm...that is current WEAKENED Strange who isnt even the Sorcessor Supreme anymore. He was afraid of Mauvais at the height of his powers. Nice comparison 🙄

Originally posted by zopzop
@Stoic

If she can really morph into any of the Great Beasts on the fly (and assuming when she morphs into said Beast she assumes it's full power), this could get ugly fast for the Hulk (or anyone else under Trans Tier).

Someone says great beast, and everyone has to be like whoa, oh shit, and all of this from nearly featless entities. Where are the scans of the great beasts threatening planets with destruction, and doing so with ease? I'm not impressed with names and titles.

On top of all of this Snowbird is Snowbird, not Kolomaq, Tanarak (who did not impress me as much as he did others) What the hell did he do that was so OMFG great?

Originally posted by -K-M-
It also should be acknowledged at the hight of World Breaker Umar came in and easily stopped Hulk. Ummm...that is current WEAKENED Strange who isnt even the Sorcessor Supreme anymore. He was afraid of Mauvais at the height of his powers. Nice comparison 🙄

Umar would destroy Snowbird, what is your point? Look I see what you're trying to do, but Snowbird has a couple of good feats, and is pretty powerful, but with CIS off, this fight would end with a couple of World Breaking slaps to her head. Which would be a soon as the fight begins.

Originally posted by Stoic
Someone says great beast, and everyone has to be like whoa, oh shit, and all of this from nearly featless entities. Where are the scans of the great beasts threatening planets with destruction, and doing so with ease? I'm not impressed with names and titles.

On top of all of this Snowbird is Snowbird, not Kolomaq, Tanarak (who did not impress me as much as he did others) What the hell did he do that was so OMFG great?

Alpha Flight vol.1 they killed an entire universe, Omega Flight Tanaraq powered up four planet busters. Also featless? Naaa you just dont know them as clear by your comments

*sigh*

Originally posted by -K-M-
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Originally posted by Stoic
Someone says great beast, and everyone has to be like whoa, oh shit, and all of this from nearly featless entities. Where are the scans of the great beasts threatening planets with destruction, and doing so with ease? I'm not impressed with names and titles.

On top of all of this Snowbird is Snowbird, not Kolomaq, Tanarak (who did not impress me as much as he did others) What the hell did he do that was so OMFG great?


They took it to Chaos King and his army, that alone screams power. I was one of her biggest doubters but if she can really morph into one of those things (and have access to it's full power)............it's game over.

Originally posted by Stoic
Umar would destroy Snowbird, what is your point? Look I see what you're trying to do, but Snowbird has a couple of good feats, and is pretty powerful, but with CIS off, this fight would end with a couple of World Breaking slaps to her head. Which would be a soon as the fight begins.

She wouldn't against her Great Beast form, and your the one that claimed he had magical resistance...he didn't. haha yeah let's also ignore the little detail Snowbird is you know in fact...faster.

Originally posted by -K-M-
Alpha Flight vol.1 they killed an entire universe, Omega Flight Tanaraq powered up four planet busters. Also featless? Naaa you just dont know them as clear by your comments

*sigh*

So since Sersi was there and doing some pretty impressive things as well, I guess she would beat the Hulk as well? Many of those characters in those scans were featless. So what they were big, and looked impressive, but what are their feats. I'm not talking about CK Hercules, he was above Galactus. Snowbird was not.

Originally posted by -K-M-
She wouldn't against her Great Beast form, and your the one that claimed he had magical resistance...he didn't. haha yeah let's also ignore the little detail Snowbird is you know in fact...faster.

He did have magical resistance, the fact that he wasn't destroyed by Umar's powers while having sex with her proves this. Go back and reread it. Umar would phucking choke the life out of Snowbird. next thing you know, you will be claiming that Snowbird would give Dormammu a good fight.

Originally posted by Sin I AM
She transforms into any one of the great beasts and destroys him....snowbirds has defeated pantheons, this hulk wankage is too much
this...

Originally posted by Stoic
He did have magical resistance, the fact that he wasn't destroyed by Umar's powers while having sex with her proves this. Go back and reread it.

Riiiiiight, let's ignore the fact Hulk and Umar had sex years ago in Defenders and guess what? He didnt die then either. Sex also somehow means magical resistance? Oh this is good. Keep up the good work.

Originally posted by Stoic
So since Sersi was there and doing some pretty impressive things as well, I guess she would beat the Hulk as well? Many of those characters in those scans were featless. So what they were big, and looked impressive, but what are their feats. I'm not talking about CK Hercules, he was above Galactus. Snowbird was not.

Sersi wasn't there, she was in the Chaos War God Squad not the Sacred Invasion God Squad and she never did anything close to what Snowbird or the Great Beasts did. Seriously did you even read them? Also featless? One of those gods seriously hurt Atum/Demogrge...ONE!