Snowbird Vs WW Hulk

Originally posted by carver9
It shouldn't be arguable since Bi Beast overpowered Thor twice and Thor is just as strong as Herc. Thor even admitted Bi Beast was as strong as Savage Hulk. Then basing it on fights, Hulk has destroyed Herc in a fist fight to the point that Hulk fist was bloody. Then let's also not forget Bi Beast beating Savage to an inch of his life, something that Thor nor Herc has accomplished...Bi Beast is stronger than Herc.

and? Wendigo was said to be as strong as Savage Hulk and matched him several times. Also you do know Thor has also quickly defeated Bi-Beast right? Then later Bi-beast and Man-Beast took on Thor and Iron Man...they lost again. Power Princess also beat him and Thing has matched him another time (and with Squirrel Girl ko'ed him). Also are you refering to WWH and Herc's fight? wow talk about ignoring context once again carver 😬

No Thor or Hercules arent murders and Thor has KO'ed the Hulk before and after he ko'ed him he stopped fighting. Could he kept going? Sure could, but once again hes not a villian.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85

Now, before you jump in, full of indignation, I posted that because you were certain that WWH would absolutely crush Snowbird.

A bit of ABC logic here, but its a useful benchmark as they have both tangled with Hercules in recent comic storylines, within a few months of each other.

Hercules = or maybe slightly < WWH.

Snowbird stalemated Hercules in her base form.

So Snowbird = or maybe slightly < WWH. Now, I'm not saying this definitely gives her the win, but am just pointing out it is by no means a crushing like you make it out to be.

Granted, you might then say WBH is >>>>>Hercules. But then, so is a Great Beast.

Originally posted by carver9
You do know Banner said the entire Avnegers INCLUDING Thor didn't stand a chance against WWH?!

Thor wasn't in the Avengers in WWH, hell that was during the time Thor was still dead. Another bit of context you left out again eh?

"What If? World War Hulk" actually had a story where Thor was there. The ending of WWH was drastically different then the 616 counterpart thanks to Thor specifically

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Snowbird would win if she kicks it up a notch as she's been prone to do recently. Not really debatable tbh.

Originally posted by carver9
You do know Banner said the entire Avnegers INCLUDING Thor didn't stand a chance against WWH?!

So...what's you point?

That Banner like to hype himself up? That only makes it all the more credible when he admits that Hercules had a chance. In fact, if anything, it means that Hercules had more than a chance of beating him.

Or is your point that Banner has no idea of the capabilities of the Hulk?? Frankly, I am less sure about this conclusion.

Originally posted by carver9
You do know Banner said the entire Avnegers INCLUDING Thor didn't stand a chance against WWH?!

Don't do it carver. Let this one go. She is too much.

Love to see this quote that specifically mentions Thor.

Originally posted by -K-M-
Thor wasn't in the Avengers in WWH, hell that was during the time Thor was still dead. Another bit of context you left out again eh?

"What If? World War Hulk" actually had a story where Thor was there. The ending of WWH was drastically different then the 616 counterpart thanks to Thor specifically

Originally posted by Mindset
Neither was Herc, for that matter.

Very true 👆

Originally posted by -K-M-
and? Wendigo was said to be as strong as Savage Hulk and matched him several times. Also you do know Thor has also quickly defeated Bi-Beast right? Then later Bi-beast and Man-Beast took on Thor and Iron Man...they lost again. Power Princess also beat him and Thing has matched him another time (and with Squirrel Girl ko'ed him). Also are you refering to WWH and Herc's fight? wow talk about ignoring context once again carver 😬

No Thor or Hercules arent murders and Thor has KO'ed the Hulk before and after he ko'ed him he stopped fighting. Could he kept going? Sure could, but once again hes not a villian.

We are talking about two different fights. You do know Hulk and Herc fought more than once right?

Yea, Thor did beat Bi Beast, I never said that he didn't beat him but that doesn't take away from the fact that Thor was overpowered twice by Bi Beast in a physical match of strength. Just because someone is stronger than you doesnt mean youll lose to them, especially with Mjlonir in your hands.

I don't get what you mean by the murderer comment.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
So...what's you point?

That Banner like to hype himself up? That only makes it all the more credible when he admits that Hercules had a chance. In fact, if anything, it means that Hercules had more than a chance of beating him.

Or is your point that Banner has no idea of the capabilities of the Hulk?? Frankly, I am less sure about this conclusion.

Why wouldn't Herc have a chance? He was one of the strongest beings on the planet. He would have still lost though because WWH was more powerful.

What do you mean "Banner didn't know the capabilities of the Hulk"...Banner was WWH.

@KM...what are you talking about? The Banner that said that was the same Banner/Hulk that was during World at War.

I never said Thor was alive during World at War, I said that during the Hulks rampage, Banner said that the Avengers didn't have a chance at stopping WWH and Thor was present. They was so scared of Hulk that they had to ship Skaar there to fight him.

Originally posted by carver9
I never said Thor was alive during World at War, I said that during the Hulks rampage, Banner said that the Avengers didn't have a chance at stopping WWH and Thor was present. They was so scared of Hulk that they had to ship Skaar there to fight him.

Not a plot device at all just to get Skaar to fight him, right?

Originally posted by carver9
Why wouldn't Herc have a chance? He was one of the strongest beings on the planet. He would have still lost though because WWH was more powerful.

What do you mean "Banner didn't know the capabilities of the Hulk"...Banner was WWH.

@KM...what are you talking about? The Banner that said that was the same Banner/Hulk that was during World at War.

I know Banner was the Hulk - lol, you really think you're the only one who knows Hulk comics?

My point was - Banner said that Herc had a chance of beating him.

You then responded by saying, well, guess what, Banner also said Thor had no chance of beating him.

I was then merely trying to figure out why you would bring that up, considering you were trying to defend your stance.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Now, before you jump in, full of indignation, I posted that because you were certain that WWH would absolutely crush Snowbird.

A bit of ABC logic here, but its a useful benchmark as they have both tangled with Hercules in recent comic storylines, within a few months of each other.

Hercules = or maybe slightly < WWH.

Snowbird stalemated Hercules in her base form.

So Snowbird = or maybe slightly < WWH. Now, I'm not saying this definitely gives her the win, but am just pointing out it is by no means a crushing like you make it out to be.

Granted, you might then say WBH is >>>>>Hercules. But then, so is a Great Beast.

I'll just pop that there again.

It's not accurate though.

What isn't?

That Hercules = or slightly < Hulk? I mean, Banner has acknowledged he had a chance - and as you yourself pointed out, Banner has a very low opinion of everyone else, so for him to acknowledge this is high praise indeed. In fact, if anything, it means that Hercules had a good chance of beating him, as Banner seems to like to lowball others.

Or perhaps that Snowbird stalemated Herc? I'm not the first or only one to have stated this. It exists in scans if you care to look.

And I myself have admitted, that it was ABC logic, but it was A: in response to your own ABC logic (re Bi-Beast and Wendigo) and B: in response to you saying WWH could crush her.

Originally posted by Mindset
Herc > Thor

You are so right at times!

Would someone be kind enough to post some images of Snowbird performing strength feats or fighting, or direct me to a thread where some can be found?

I don't recall seeing ANYthing in this thread for Snowbird graphic-wise, not so much as her picking up LUNCH for her friends ...

Originally posted by zopzop
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f98/t489345.html

Thank you, Z!

Originally posted by carver9
We are talking about two different fights. You do know Hulk and Herc fought more than once right?

Yea, Thor did beat Bi Beast, I never said that he didn't beat him but that doesn't take away from the fact that Thor was overpowered twice by Bi Beast in a physical match of strength. Just because someone is stronger than you doesnt mean youll lose to them, especially with Mjlonir in your hands.

I don't get what you mean by the murderer comment.

Iam now what fight are you talking about then? Banner's own words said he was the few that could stop Hulk during WWH

When? Where did he overpower him? Also did you miss the part where Power Princess beat him and Thing matched him?

Your the one that mentioned Bi-beast nearly beat Hulk to the inch of his life