Lanterns take on Odin

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
So, you don't like that Odin has consistently displayed the ability to one shot high heralds, so it doesn't count.

lol @ "Using that principle, it is not within Odin's capability to one shot any high herald being."

Not even an ardent DC fanboy would go that far.

He hasn't consistently displayed the ability to one shot high heralds.
It doesn't count when we consider the high herald level highest feats of tanking things skyfather level and above.

We based things on proof and on panel showings for BOTH SIDES. Odin is not one shotting a high herald level being at their best. Sorry. Comics doesn't support that.

Going by feats for both sides, Odin one-shotting heralds isn't a high end feat.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Going by feats for both sides, Odin one-shotting heralds isn't a high end feat.

It sure as hell isn't, especially given that when Odin does that he's not even going all out.

High end Odin is destroying galaxies and what not.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Going by feats for both sides, Odin one-shotting heralds isn't a high end feat.

Originally posted by h1a8
No, but it is a low end feat for the high herald since they tanked equal or better.

Please prove that tanking skyfather level attacks is Surfer's average.

Originally posted by h1a8
No, but it is a low end feat for the high herald since they tanked equal or better.

Are you comparing Surfer vs Odin to Surfer vs T/A? Because I see what you are trying to get at. Odin one shotted Surfer yet Surfer took REPEATED blows from T/A and wasn't one shotted.

But someone could say that T/A aren't as powerful as Odin. It's not too farfetched a statement either, seeing as how Odin has a history of ridiculous fights and feats while T/A got nothing much on panel.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Please prove that tanking skyfather level attacks is Surfer's average.

It's not his average but his high end feats. The same as we have for Odin. Odin's average is such that he's not one shotting a high herald level being.

Originally posted by zopzop
Depends on what you mean.

Are you comparing Surfer vs Odin to Surfer vs T/A? Because I see what you are trying to get at. Odin one shotted Surfer yet Surfer took REPEATED blows from T/A and wasn't one shotted.

But someone could say that T/A aren't as powerful as Odin. It's not too farfetched a statement either, seeing as how Odin has a history of ridiculous fights and feats while T/A got nothing much on panel.

Exactly, but also we have other feats throughout Surfer's history of him tanking skyfather level blasts.

T/A were Galactus level (or close) so them being peers to Odin is very logical.

Originally posted by h1a8
It's not his average but his high end feats. The same as we have for Odin. Odin's average is such that he's not one shotting a high herald level being.

...Odin one shotting high heralds isn't high end for Odin. That's about the norm for a skyfather of his stature.

High end Odin does shit like destroy galaxies and rock the multiverse.

Ummm T&A are well above Odin actually... That is called PIS for why Surfer wasn't KO'd let alone survived. Odin doing that to Surfer is just about right for both characters.. Not high or low...

Originally posted by h1a8
It's not his average but his high end feats. The same as we have for Odin. Odin's average is such that he's not one shotting a high herald level being.

Odin's high end feats would suggest him one-hit killing the Surfer, therefore him ko'ing the Surfer isn't a high end feat.

h1a8 is so full of crap, se says Odin not one shotting Thanos is pis yet him one shotting heralds isnt the norm

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
...Odin one shotting high heralds isn't high end for Odin. That's about the norm for a skyfather of his stature.

High end Odin does shit like destroy galaxies and rock the multiverse.

Destroy galaxies feats aren't what you think they are. I'll explain:
1. We don't know how many blasts it took (it took a lot it seemed).
2. It was a shared feat giving Odin half the feat.
3. Galaxies aren't that durable. Sure they are big, but when compared to the durability of high end feats of high herald level beings they are made of fluff. Destroying a mountain of fluff doesn't mean you can destroy a tank of solid steel alloy.

Rocking the multiverse isn't a feat proving damage.
1. Space time and dimension powers achieves the feat (not raw power). Otherwise the Thor's clashing = Odin and Seth with their feat and the Supermen punching each other=Odin and Seth with their feat.

If you are going to use averages then they must be weighted averages. 3 feats in comparison to hundreds of other showings doesn't sway much in favor of those 3 feats. But if you are going to use only high end feats then we must also use a high heralds high end feats (black holes, skyfathers ,etc.)

Originally posted by Nihilist
h1a8 is so full of crap, se says Odin not one shotting Thanos is pis yet him one shotting heralds isnt the norm

I didn't say that Odin not one shotting Thanos is PIS. I said him not beating him with ease is PIS. Also I said that before I knew of certain feats of some (like Surfer and Thor).

Originally posted by h1a8
I didn't say that Odin not one shotting Thanos is PIS. I said him not beating him with ease is PIS. Also I said that before I knew of certain feats of some (like Surfer and Thor).

Odin pretty much one shotted the Serpent... before he fused with his brothers...

So uh... if he can take out Serpent easily, then him knocking out Surfer and Drax in one shot is def pis.

Originally posted by Nihilist
So basically you talk shit and have massive double standards

It's not double standards. I don't view Thanos as that much more powerful than a high end high herald level being. Thanos strength is in his versatility and smarts. He has a great power set coupled with a brilliant mind. This makes him highly formidable. Sure he has great power output and great durability. But definitely not a lot more than the top high heralds when they are at their best.

Originally posted by h1a8
It's not double standards. I don't view Thanos as that much more powerful than a high end high herald level being. Thanos strength is in his versatility and smarts. He has a great power set coupled with a brilliant mind. This makes him highly formidable. Sure he has great power output and great durability. But definitely not a lot more than the top high heralds when they are at their best.

The funny thing about this, is his average is better than their bests.

Originally posted by Sr J-Bieb
Odin pretty much one shotted the Serpent... before he fused with his brothers...

So uh... if he can take out Serpent easily, then him knocking out Surfer and Drax in one shot is def pis.

He one shot the Serpent in "fear itself"?
If Yes then if we ONLY go by that then Odin can indeed one shot most (if not all) high heralds. Also we must ignore the high herald level feats of withstanding skyfather level attacks and above.

Originally posted by h1a8
He one shot the Serpent in "fear itself"?
If Yes then if we ONLY go by that then Odin can indeed one shot most (if not all) high heralds.

We don't only go by one feat though, that's the problem you have. Even though you ignore based on what you want...

If Odin can take out Serpent so easily, Drax, Surfer, Annihilus, Thor, Ulik, etc. Then HE CAN one shot heralds. It's not rocket appliances.