Originally posted by Sr J-Bieb
"At their best"The funny thing about this, is his average is better than their bests.
I disagree. I don't think Thanos at his best can no sell a black hole, exert many planet's worth of force, etc.
IMO, the destructive power of a black hole >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>almost anything in the universe
Originally posted by h1a8Thanos got trapped in a 2 light year black hole, and only needed to be wiped down. Thanos, who can't fly like a Surfer or Superman to fight the effects (theoretically).
I disagree. I don't think Thanos at his best can no sell a black hole, exert many planet's worth of force, etc.IMO, the destructive power of a black hole >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>almost anything in the universe
That's funny because a black hole would be destroyed if Galactus entered it. Galactus blasted the shit out of Thanos. Thanos wasn't KO'ed.
Galactus > Black hole.
Originally posted by Sr J-Bieb
In the prequel. It was when Serpent had the whole world in fear, and it was the last thing he saw before Fear Itself happened. Under the same writer.We don't only go by one feat though, that's the problem you have. Even though you ignore based on what you want...
If Odin can take out Serpent so easily, Drax, Surfer, Annihilus, Thor, Ulik, etc. Then HE CAN one shot heralds. It's not rocket appliances.
Exactly!
I'm actually appealing to those who use averages here. Otherwise, if we use the heralds best feats then Odin can't one shot them despite him beating Serpent.
Based on averages Odin isn't one shotting any high herald level being. But that doesn't mean he's not going to stomp them.
He's not one shotting Thor, Surfer, Gladiator, Superman (if you take away magical weakness), etc.
Originally posted by h1a8Sir, you are too stupid to use your computer.
Exactly!
I'm actually appealing to those who use averages here. Otherwise, if we use the heralds best feats then Odin can't one shot them despite him beating Serpent.Based on averages Odin isn't one shotting any high herald level being. But that doesn't mean he's not going to stomp them.
He's not one shotting Thor, Surfer, Gladiator, Superman (if you take away magical weakness), etc.
Please return it to your nearest garbage dump.
Originally posted by Sr J-Bieb
Thanos got trapped in a 2 light year black hole, and only needed to be wiped down. Thanos, who can't fly like a Surfer or Superman to fight the effects (theoretically).That's funny because a black hole would be destroyed if Galactus entered it. Galactus blasted the shit out of Thanos. Thanos wasn't KO'ed.
Galactus > Black hole.
But Thanos was hurt from it.
Fighting the effects by trying to fly away (don't know if Surfer did that though since he was straight fighting in one) may lessen the force or it may not. I'm thinking it would strengthen the spaghetti process since different parts of your body are being pulled with different forces. So flying would still have one part of your body moving at a different speed than another (since one part is pulled harder than the other). I have to think about that.
How do you know a black hole would be destroyed if Galactus entered it? Has he done this? I'm curious here.
Didn't Thanos have his top shields up when Galactus blasted him? I'm sure that Thanos got some of the blast though after his shields buckled but we don't know how much before Thanos pleaded.
Originally posted by Sr J-Bieb
Sir, you are too stupid to use your computer.Please return it to your nearest garbage dump.
I apologize if I did something wrong. What was it?
Originally posted by h1a8Yes he was. But the black hole also closed on him without warning.
But Thanos was hurt from it.
Fighting the effects by trying to fly away (don't know if Surfer did that though since he was straight fighting in one) may lessen the force or it may not. I'm thinking it would strengthen the spaghetti process since different parts of your body are being pulled with different forces. So flying would still have one part of your body moving at a different speed than another (since one part is pulled harder than the other). I have to think about that.How do you know a black hole would be destroyed if Galactus entered it? Has he done this? I'm curious here.
Didn't Thanos have his top shields up when Galactus blasted him? I'm sure that Thanos got some of the blast though after his shields buckled but we don't know how much before Thanos pleaded.
I apologize if I did something wrong. What was it?
Why would speed reinforce it when in comics speed is the only thing that can really fight against the pull?
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff240/Branlactus/Energy%20manipulation/misc/DazzlerV1010-16.jpg
His shields got blasted through. Why do we narrow down exposure only in the case of Thanos? We're supposed to believe as soon as Galactus' blast touched Thanos that Thanos gave up? It actually only hit Thanos for a second... yup.
You don't know what you're talking about, and you can't make sense. It's utterly ridiculous to rule out every feat of Odin one shotted someone because they did something different elsewhere. Odin's one shotted heralds like almost every time, that's not even factoring the "and over". Most of the feats in comics are ruled out following this logic, and it's god damned stupid.
Originally posted by Silent MasterYou mean
High end feats for Surfer = taking a couple skyfather level attacks
High end feats for Odin >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> force needed to ko a herald.
High end feats for Odin>>>>>>>>>>>force needed to ko a herald ignoring their feats of tanking skyfather level attacks.
If a herald level being can tank a skyfather level attack yet Odin can one shot them then that means Odin>>>>>>>>>Skyfather level (contradiction).
Originally posted by h1a8
You meanHigh end feats for Odin>>>>>>>>>>>force needed to ko a herald ignoring their feats of tanking skyfather level attacks.
If a herald level being can tank a skyfather level attack yet Odin can one shot them then that means Odin>>>>>>>>>Skyfather level (contradiction).
No, it doesn't ignore Surfer's high end feats, it just doesn't assume that those attacks he "tanked' represented a high-end power showing for the skyfathers in question. especially since skyfathers in general and Odin in particular have feats that are >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ko'ing a herald.
Originally posted by h1a8
You meanHigh end feats for Odin>>>>>>>>>>>force needed to ko a herald ignoring their feats of tanking skyfather level attacks.
If a herald level being can tank a skyfather level attack yet Odin can one shot them then that means Odin>>>>>>>>>Skyfather level (contradiction).
Dude that's one feat for surfer. One very high end feat that just may be the best in his career, against Odin's entire history of feats?
Originally posted by JayDaDon
Dude that's one feat for surfer. One very high end feat that just may be the best in his career, against Odin's entire history of feats?
He doesn't understand that fights have more than one side, he just assumes that being a high-end feat for one side means that it's also a high-end feat for the other.
Originally posted by Sr J-Bieb
Yes he was. But the black hole also closed on him without warning.
When this is the average feat of Thanos, you know you're treading down the wrong path.Why would speed reinforce it when in comics speed is the only thing that can really fight against the pull?
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff240/Branlactus/Energy%20manipulation/misc/DazzlerV1010-16.jpg
His shields got blasted through. Why do we narrow down exposure only in the case of Thanos? We're supposed to believe as soon as Galactus' blast touched Thanos that Thanos gave up? It actually only hit Thanos for a second... yup.
You don't know what you're talking about, and you can't make sense. It's utterly ridiculous to rule out every feat of Odin one shotted someone because they did something different elsewhere. Odin's one shotted heralds like almost every time, that's not even factoring the "and over". Most of the feats in comics are ruled out following this logic, and it's god damned stupid.
I know of only 1 instance of Odin one shotting a high herald and that's Surfer.
I swear to you it seemed that Thanos barely got the blast before he submitted. I give props where props is due.
So Galactus is powerful as hell I see.
Trust me I have a valid argument. Comics have both low and high showings that contradict each other. Clearly many star heralds (with their own comic) has feats withstanding levels of power above them. I think any star herald (star of the story) that is fighting with high level will and determination will not be one shotted by a skyfather level being. Sure they will be outmatched and probably succumb but not a one shot.
I tell you what. I'm a fair person. At least I try to be. If you can name or show me several times (3 or 4 at least) where Odin has ONE shot a HIGH herald level being then I'll concede to the notion that he can do so under normal circumstances.
Originally posted by h1a8I just told you a bunch of times.
I know of only 1 instance of Odin one shotting a high herald and that's Surfer.
I swear to you it seemed that Thanos barely got the blast before he submitted. I give props where props is due.
So Galactus is powerful as hell I see.Trust me I have a valid argument. Comics have both low and high showings that contradict each other. Clearly many star heralds (with their own comic) has feats withstanding levels of power above them. I think any star herald (star of the story) that is fighting with high level will and determination will not be one shotted by a skyfather level being. Sure they will be outmatched and probably succumb but not a one shot.
I tell you what. I'm a fair person. At least I try to be. If you can name or show me several times (3 or 4 at least) where Odin has ONE shot a HIGH herald level being then I'll concede to the notion that he can do so under normal circumstances.
lol, no you don't. You never give Thanos props.
More powerful than a black hole. And Thanos withstood that attack where similar ones have one shotted Surfer (many times).
No you don't. Your argument is that it doesn't matter if Odin one shots them, it doesn't count because they have better feats.
No you aren't.
Well, let's test this out.
One shots Thor:
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Thor/Thor_291_17.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Thor/Thor_291_18.jpg
Casually one shots Drax:
http://imageshack.us/f/385/warlockandtheinfinitywatch25bl.jpg/
http://imageshack.us/f/385/warlockandtheinfinitywatch25bl1.jpg/
One shots Hela, then brings her back to life:
http://imageshack.us/f/225/thor190085mi.jpg/
http://imageshack.us/f/225/thor190091cg.jpg/
http://imageshack.us/f/225/thor19012134uw.jpg/
Depowers Loki with a blast:
http://imageshack.us/f/369/thor148016jm.jpg/
http://imageshack.us/f/369/thor148026ws.jpg/
Takes out the ****ing Serpent in one attack while he wasn't merged with his two brothers:
http://i45.tinypic.com/25s3636.jpg
http://i47.tinypic.com/200urrn.jpg
http://i50.tinypic.com/2w74neu.jpg
Takes out Surtur with a sword attack:
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l92/priest_85/Thor_7_DCP_022.jpg
There's also him one shotting Surfer of course, punching out Ulik while weakened, stabbing Surtur through the throat, and throwing Annihilus forcibly out of Asgard.
Now, you're going to ***** about things and say "lol Thor effected him", but even so, we have Odin taking out Surfer, Thor, Hela, and the Serpent with one attack. I'd say Loki, Drax and Surtur too, but I don't want to deal with your "well it doesn't count because"
There's your 3 or 4 undeniable feats. And there's a handful of other goodies where high level people were taken out easily (that I know you're going to make up bullshit about).
Originally posted by Sr J-Biebthis
I just told you a bunch of times.lol, no you don't. You never give Thanos props.
More powerful than a black hole. And Thanos withstood that attack where similar ones have one shotted Surfer (many times).
No you don't. Your argument is that it doesn't matter if Odin one shots them, it doesn't count because they have better feats.
No you aren't.
Well, let's test this out.
One shots Thor:
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Thor/Thor_291_17.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Thor/Thor_291_18.jpgCasually one shots Drax:
http://imageshack.us/f/385/warlockandtheinfinitywatch25bl.jpg/
http://imageshack.us/f/385/warlockandtheinfinitywatch25bl1.jpg/One shots Hela, then brings her back to life:
http://imageshack.us/f/225/thor190085mi.jpg/
http://imageshack.us/f/225/thor190091cg.jpg/http://imageshack.us/f/225/thor19012134uw.jpg/
Depowers Loki with a blast:
http://imageshack.us/f/369/thor148016jm.jpg/
http://imageshack.us/f/369/thor148026ws.jpg/Takes out the ****ing Serpent in one attack while he wasn't merged with his two brothers:
http://i45.tinypic.com/25s3636.jpg
http://i47.tinypic.com/200urrn.jpg
http://i50.tinypic.com/2w74neu.jpgThere's also him one shotting Surfer of course, punching out Ulik while weakened, stabbing Surtur through the throat, and throwing Annihilus forcibly out of Asgard.
Now, you're going to ***** about things and say "lol Thor effected him", but even so, we have Odin taking out Surfer, Thor, Hela, and the Serpent with one attack.
There's your 3 or 4 undeniable feats. And there's a handful of other goodies where high level people were taken out easily (that I know you're going to make up bullshit about).
