Originally posted by Pwned
Tell me, if he is ripped into pieces, just say his torso, head, and limbs, how will he function? His head would probably be the cognitive part, and so his head could roll around. The Lizard then crushes his head. That would leave his conciousness in limbo.
He can clearly function without a head, as he's ripped it off himself and was able to get around just fine in JP2.
I think the mythos is that the actual creature just consist of the wings and the claws (think of an Alien's facehugger with wings), the rest of the [human] body is replaceable and just a means to get around.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TMrG-K-qO1k&feature=relmfu
The vid shows just how crappy this guys durability is he loses his wings one of his arms and one of his legs during a car "accident".(5:57)
Lizard tears him to shreds...
Originally posted by RobtardBut how effective would he be if he was ripped limb from limb until he was just a head? Or wings and claws, as the case may be.
He can clearly function without a head, as he's ripped it off himself and was able to get around just fine in JP2.I think the mythos is that the actual creature just consist of the wings and the claws (think of an Alien's facehugger with wings), the rest of the [human] body is replaceable and just a means to get around.
Just finished JC1 again.-
41:41 Once he gets your scent there is no escaping his tracking.
45:40 Battle-Axe feat. He wore it as he flew.
54:00 Speed feat. He in the blink of an eye dodges a shotgun blast and launches himself like a cat over a his and inside it. All in 1 1/2 secs. Faster than anything I ever saw Lizard do including agility.
1:05:00 whatever he eats becomes a part of it.....though.
1:06:00 it needs to scare people to know what it needs to eat.
1:12:00 eats hearts to remain alive no matter what. Which implies a degree of HF. But requires time. Hearts boost speed of regen.
1:12:26 punches a mans heart out and consumes with ease.
1:20:00 flies through metal bars like butter. +earlier feat in prison of stretching metal bars.
Accurate 2nd film feats to come.
Originally posted by Estacado
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TMrG-K-qO1k&feature=relmfu
The vid shows just how crappy this guys durability is he loses his wings one of his arms and one of his legs during a car "accident".(5:57)Lizard tears him to shreds...
Originally posted by Estacado
313wank
Thanks. Gotta say I never had anyone wank over my post before. And just 1 min after I wrote it. You must have been gagging to jerk it off all day amirite?
Originally posted by Estacado
haermm
Yeah I'm sure he lost his wings ,arm and leg on purpose just to jump around the corn field like a lame ass frog...
Also he didn't get run over he got tricked.
😂 Yeah it's a weird scene. But considering he jumped the car so easily the first 2 times. Then took a dive the third had me wondering. Then the old lady told them that he had to induce fear in his enemies to drag out what he needed in them.
Just how did the car trick the Creeper? How did getting let on the leg result in such a wailing scream that resulted in him staying in the air for a prolonged period of time before falling on the ground PERFECTLY STILL?
He copped bullets. Tore metal bars. Flew through metal bars. Yet getting hit on his lower leg was his Achilles Heel?
Cmon Esta! He's a masochist. He was playing them and getting his jollies off. His home was even callled the House of Pain. He loves the stuff. He's a prankster masochist.
The car feat was a way for the writers to move the plot forward because they still had half an hour to go knowing full well those kids were screwed in that car if the Creeper really wanted them caught. He took a dive.
Originally posted by KingD19
Looked pretty much like he was chasing them down, then he just slammed on the brake. He wouldn't have expected that.
She was driving. And he walked into the car. Jeez he was walking sideways then did a roll over the hood.
Actually, considering how, when fighting Spiderman, the small, lanky teenager moving as fast as the Creeper in erratic patterns everywhere around the Lizard, he caught the guy he was fighting, I don't see how you can say that the Creeper is faster.
Oh, and metal is like butter to the Lizard as well. The car? The Lizard can't even be run over by a car that size, he is way too big.
Originally posted by Estacado
Ninjak did you atlest watch the scene I posted? That was from the 2nd movie not the 1st ....
I just scanned all the pages in this thread Esta, which video do you mean?
Originally posted by Pwned
Actually, considering how, when fighting Spiderman, the small, lanky teenager moving as fast as the Creeper in erratic patterns everywhere around the Lizard, he caught the guy he was fighting, I don't see how you can say that the Creeper is faster.Oh, and metal is like butter to the Lizard as well. The car? The Lizard can't even [B]be
run over by a car that size, he is way too big. [/B]
Look guys I never said the Creeper would defeat the Lizard in a straight mana e mano fight. From the beginning I said the Creeper would fly in and swoop his head off via battleaxe or whatever he could get his hands on.
I threw in the shurikens as a distraction or test of the Lizard's strength. Now those shurikens the Creeper threw whilst running through a field with pin point accuracy. And they were capable of popping a buses tires.
Now....Pwned. I agree absolutely the Lizard ripped that car metal apart but so did the Creeper in the first film. He tore open the cop car's roof and beheaded the cop with the axe. The whole feat of the Creeper being run over was purposeful to the Creeper and the Lizard would've had none of that, I agree. But the Creeper took a dive. I'm open to suggestions but I believe he took a dive. Call it PIS or masochistic tendancies he took a dive. That car scene is less than a low showing. It was a jestful DIVE!
The Creeper torn prison bars apart and flew through metal window bars less than an inch from them. Feats from the first film. I gave accurate time placements in tonights above post.
Now. In a Central Park setting. With the Creeper as per forum rules "wanting" to take the Lizard down. Using all of his feats at his disposal. It's fair enough for a debater to say that he can take the Lizard's head off in a swift fashion.
All fights in ASM between the Lizard and Spider minus the OSCORP building fight were in enclosed areas. And Spidey fought like an amatuer compared to Tobey Spidey. The OSCORP fight reeked of PIS including the sewer scene. His Spidey Sense didn't work!
Lets take the debate from there. 🙂
JP 2
0:07:00 Flies away instantly covering entering the clouds in 10 secs.
0:10:00 Shuriken pops tears thick rubber tyres apart. Shurikans are mystical in nature.
0:14:30 Mystical dagger held by farmer mysteriously lauches itself from his hands through lamp into wall.
0:23:30 Creeper runs through field and throws 2nd Shuriken a good 400 mtrs accurately into tyre.
0:26:40 Man gets air blitzed/lifted into the air before anyone could see anything. Another at 29:00.
0:43:00 Creeper has existed for thousands of years and nothing has been able to kill it.
0:45:46 Creepers peeled the roof off a stationwagon like a sardine can. Punches hole through bus roof at 49:00.
0:50:00 Tanks spear through brain. Tears off a chunk of his head.
0:53:00 Wings have Sharp blades at their peaks. Look around 10 inchs long. tips of wings around 3 inchs.
0:57:00 Wing wraps a victim up like a caccoon. Removes his head in the process.
0:59:00 Creeper tears off head and grows a new one. Replaced with the head of the boy he just beheaded. Grows back his features.
1:07:00 Throws 3rd shuriken whilst flying, kills kid. 4th projectile a knife, impales kid to tree.
1:14:22 Gets inpaled by harpoon with magic dagger on the end. The same dagger that flew out of the farmers habd at the beginning of the movie.
Flips a truck with the power of its wings alone.
1:32:00 Goes into hybernation sleep.
So yeah. Straight up melee fight Lizard wins. Creepers only chance is to get that head off in a quick strike. If he fails he won't get another chance.
Originally posted by Estacado
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TMrG-K-qO1k&feature=relmfu
The vid shows just how crappy this guys durability is he loses his wings one of his arms and one of his legs during a car "accident".(5:57)Lizard tears him to shreds...
Originally posted by Estacado
Yeah just watched the 2nd film again tonight. The film reeked of inconsistencies.
He could peel car roofs and smash through metal. Yet he could'nt overpower kids on muliple occasions when they held on. Stupid.
He could reach low orbit in 5 secs in one scene yet he could'nt catch up to a car a simply pick the guy off the back. Even though he caught up to speeding cars in the first film. Stupid.
He could break through metal bars with his body. Yet he couldn't tank flying into a car. stupid.
He had the strength to flip a car with the strength of his wings alone. yet had problems pulling a sleak metal javelin from his head. stupid.
He was captured by the Farmer. Yet they hold his in a barn waiting for him to wake up again. Instead of putting him inside an incinerator............stupid.
Now I'm up to date on the character after not watching Jeepers Creepers 2 for a long time I'm not so impressed by him anymore.
His magic weapons are interesting though. And the fact that he can wrap his opponent in a wing then use the sharp points to remove heads.