Starkillers Clone

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Starkillers Clone

I just want to ask for a consensus for whether people think we should seperate Galen Marek's feats from that of his clone.

Surely as a clone is a perfect replica of a person, then the past feats of Marek should be transferred on to his clone and vice versa. What do you guys think about this?

Its my own thought that Vader would have enhanced the clone beyond the original. I mean, he didn't mean for the clone to go haywire and follow the original's path, so it stands to reason he would have made it even more pwoerful so it would get stuff done faster. Plus, he would think he could take it out.

So yes, I do think we should separate the clones abilities from Mareks.

Is that possible? How would Vader enhance the clone?

Idk. He had access to Sidious' libraries, he could have used some sort of Sith ritual to do so. TFU displays him as the type of person to do so.

I'll look into ways to do it and update as I find them.

Pwned makes a convincing argument for why Vader would seek to increase the clone's power, but honestly, he'd have just as much reason to limit the clone's abilities whenever possible considering what happened the last time Vader and Starkiller tangled.

But then the problem is whether or not TFU2 Marek is a clone at all. Vader says yes, Kota says no, the game attempts to treat it with a level of ambiguity.

Alright, I looked around and stuff, and I came up with a couple ideas on how he could have:
1- Midichlorians are living organisms in the cells, so when you clone the larger organism, some midichlorians are cloned as well. It would also explain why Jorus C'baoth was called a -meh- Jedi Master, while Joruus C'baoth was able to overpower Luke and Mara. -I see this as the most likely.
2- Seeing as how Plagueis studied Midichlorians and could manipulate them, it is not unreasonable to say that he recorded his data and methods somewhere. Give Vader scientists, a lab, the records (most likely in Palpatines library) and time, and he could feasibly cause the midichlorians to duplicate themselves. He had all those resources as the Emperors Fist, so its possible.
3- They wanted to make the player feel more badass.
4- PIS.
5- Canadians. 😖hifty:

We're clever like that.

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Originally posted by Pwned
Alright, I looked around and stuff, and I came up with a couple ideas on how he could have:
1- Midichlorians are living organisms in the cells, so when you clone the larger organism, some midichlorians are cloned as well. It would also explain why Jorus C'baoth was called a -meh- Jedi Master, while Joruus C'baoth was able to overpower Luke and Mara. -I see this as the most likely.
2- Seeing as how Plagueis studied Midichlorians and could manipulate them, it is not unreasonable to say that he recorded his data and methods somewhere. Give Vader scientists, a lab, the records (most likely in Palpatines library) and time, and he could feasibly cause the midichlorians to duplicate themselves. He had all those resources as the Emperors Fist, so its possible.
3- They wanted to make the player feel more badass.
4- PIS.
5- Canadians. 😖hifty:

I'm not convinced that its possible. Theres no indication that its possible to enhance or limit a Force Sensitive clones power in the Force, nor that Palpatine would -or did- allow Vader access to his greatest secret, the ability to manipulate midi-chlorians.

Eh, its speculation no matter how you phrase it. Those are just my opinions and scenarios I could think of.

Problem is, we can't rely on what Vader tells him because Vader is attempting to re-establish control over him (leads to a Kreia-scenario of statements being untrustworthy)

I'll keep checking around, and see if I can get some more plausible things.

I'll pull a Battlemaster here- Theres no evidence saying you can't enhance a clones power, so clearly you can!

It would also explain why Jorus C'baoth was called a -meh- Jedi Master, while Joruus C'baoth was able to overpower Luke and Mara. -I see this as the most likely.
The clone used darkside and madness was his main source of power. It's just another perfect example that darkside gives greater power.
It's like Meetra Surik was - a meh, while Nihilus is over-hyped to have irresistible drain and even to be able to suck from Palpatine and Luke.
Spoiler:
No, not in that way!

Was the clone done through a Spaarti? If it was, maybe it was done the same way as the Wayland clones, and created in a void in the Force. That may cause the midichlorians to be more effective. Idk.

In Thrawn Trilogy using Isalamiri only allowed faster growing, so clones didn't become mad like Joorus or died.
Sidious seemed more powerful in his clones but we, also, know that newer bodies were decaying much faster, which could mean that he no longer needed to restrain himself to sustain his body and abused Force on bigger scale.
With introduction of Abeloth and Vitiate Midichlorians don't matter anymore. Vitiate in his voices is as powerful as in original body. And Abeloth was as powerful in non-sensitive bodies, the only problem was that those bodies couldn't contain her for long.

Also, considering feats of original Marek, I don't see any room for improvement. 🙂

Originally posted by Arhael
In Thrawn Trilogy using Isalamiri
Muslim Thrawn?

Originally posted by Lord Lucien
Muslim Thrawn?

😆 😆 😆

"Islamamiri" 😛

Islamamiri: "We refer to your "Force" as Allah - and Dooku is our Prophet - may peace be upon him.

Allah Hafiz.

Re: Starkillers Clone

Originally posted by Nephthys
I just want to ask for a consensus for whether people think we should seperate Galen Marek's feats from that of his clone.

Surely as a clone is a perfect replica of a person, then the past feats of Marek should be transferred on to his clone and vice versa. What do you guys think about this?

They should be separated, for the simple fact that there is a decent chance of them being separate characters, and it is just safer to separate the feats of both so as to not inspire anusballs.

Originally posted by Battlemaster
😆 😆 😆

"Islamamiri" 😛

[B]Islamamiri: "We refer to your "Force" as Allah - and Dooku is our Prophet - may peace be upon him.

Allah Hafiz. [/B]

Ah, Janus.

DE Sidious's clone body feats are counted with Sidious's feats, I see no reason why Starkiller's should be seperated from Galen Marek's.

That would be my thinking. A clone is a clone after all. Logically they should be the same, Force-wise. I just don't see the point in seperating them other than that they might technically not have done the feats that the other has. As a clone, that doesn't matter imo.

And if he's not a clone, even better.

Originally posted by Nephthys
And if he's not a clone, even better.

They were both referred to as Subject 1138. Coincidence, I think not.