Hulk - Drain Him

Originally posted by h1a8
Good point. Even Absorbing Man has shown his limits by trying to absorb Sentry.
People are basing draining WBH off the satellite feat. This is a fallacy since we don't know the nature of the satellite. For instance, Reed can create weapons or things that can trump what almost any high herald can do (if not all of them). I know this isn't canon I think but just to give an example of what I mean, Reed has created a gun to even hurt the LT. No herald can even phase the LT. So again it's a fallacy to think that in all cases heralds are greater than all human technology in comics.

That was an alternate Reed , and his device never hurt the LT , it merely BFRéd him along with the other Cosmics and Abstracts that were assembled there .

Mr Master has provided scans of the entire incident , and explained it in great detail . Go and read that explanation before making such erroneous claims(based on second-hand opinions and hearsay) .

Originally posted by TheGodKiller
Sentry reverted back to Bob as well . He didn't drain Banner .

That's not what I asked

Originally posted by Sin I AM
Did he not revert back to banner or am I missing something

Originally posted by Sin I AM
That's not what I asked

You asked whether or not Sentry drained Hulk or not , and when KuRuPT replied , telling you that he didn't , you tried to reason that Hulk reverting back to Banner somehow indicates that he got drained .

I replied by telling you that Sentry was reverted to Bob as well , proving that he didn't drain Banner . I answered your question . Now you claim that's not what you asked . A poor attempt to save face .

Originally posted by psycho gundam
you're still missing something

Not really, op asked if hulk can be drained. Sure he can, surfers already done it. Then the response was well that's savage hulk not the same, which is bull since their has always been a potential for greater strength as stated by beyonder, reed, etc..so I say sentry did it, hulk burnt himself out fighting him which is true. Then u say he powered back up when he got angry again which holds no bearing since he was already depowered, showing there are limits. Then he goes wbh, and the sat takes him out...another example of running out of juice, then people say its all sue to tech which is a copout, when u got heralds manipulating greater amounts of energy than hulk has produced...then there is the zeus incident...infinite rage and this imaginary well of energy he draws from didn't help him there...there is a cap.

I understand that in hotm he destroyed a planet and maybe some moons, good got it. But one it was a shared feat and two the exact nature of the dimension makes it a bit ambiguous.....IMO

nice try lumping the sentry fight with other instances, they're not the same, you even proved why in the same sentence

Originally posted by Sin I AM
so I say sentry did it, hulk burnt himself out fighting him which is true. Then u say he powered back up when he got angry again which holds no bearing since he was already depowered, showing there are limits.

Originally posted by TheGodKiller
You asked whether or not Sentry drained Hulk or not , and when KuRuPT replied , telling you that he didn't , you tried to reason that Hulk reverting back to Banner somehow indicates that he got drained .

I replied by telling you that Sentry was reverted to Bob as well , proving that he didn't drain Banner . I answered your question . Now you claim that's not what you asked . A poor attempt to save face .

Who's saving face? That's wtf I asked did he or did he not get run out of juicefighting sentry which he did. Him repowering later means nothing since it was already shown his powers were depleted. If the roles were reversed and it was sentrys book and bob knocked Bruce out im sure he would have powered back up as well

You don't see a difference between somebody using their abilities to drain power from somebody or absorb their power... and somebody getting tired or running out of joice which had nothing to do with the opponent DRAINING them? You seem to thnk they are the same.. they aren't.

Originally posted by carver9
I already did.

NO, So far you have not 😱

Originally posted by carver9
Damborgson, why do you make threads based off of my comments? By the way, none of them drain him.

Originally posted by carver9
I understand that but you make threads based off of things I say all of the time.

Originally posted by carver9
Lol...I'm not saying it in that kind of way, its just something I noticed.

Originally posted by carver9
No herald can but I wouldn't put it past any skyfather being capable of doing so.

Originally posted by carver9
When did a Satellite drain Hulk? I thought it stopped him instead. Where did you get the drainage from?

Originally posted by carver9
Oooookkkkaaaay, what does that have to do with the satellite draining him completely?

Originally posted by carver9
The satellite was used as a weapon, not something that was built to primarily drain Hulk. Even if it was (it wasn't though)...the satellite was prepped by Strange, Tony, and Reed...I put that weapon above any Herald weapon.

Originally posted by carver9
Remind me Monday to give you a scan.

Originally posted by carver9
I am beginning to like H1.

Originally posted by carver9
Show a wish being granted to achieve the ft. The only wish that was made during that time was Betty wishing herself to be Hulks equal and Hulk wishing everyone back to life after the explosion. Sin, question...what reason is that you don't like the Hulk? You tend to low ball him any chance you get. Why?

Originally posted by carver9
@h1...

About Hulk lifting mountains...classic secret wars was reintroduced and Savage Hulk lifted the entire thing. The mountain was twice the size of the Appalachians and he lifted it at a calm state.

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/12259403/Hulk2.jpg.html

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/12259420/Hulk8.jpg.html

This ft poot on Zeus mountain lifting ft.

Originally posted by carver9
No one drains him.

[QUOTE=13935256]Originally posted by carver9
I guess that means Hulk drained Sentry too huh?

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
You don't see a difference between somebody using their abilities to drain power from somebody or absorb their power... and somebody getting tired or running out of joice which had nothing to do with the opponent DRAINING them? You seem to thnk they are the same.. they aren't.

Your right I concede they are not one and the same, however my earlier argument holds truth

Originally posted by Sin I AM
Who's saving face?

Originally posted by Sin I AM
That's wtf I asked did he or did he not get run out of juicefighting sentry which he did. Him repowering later means nothing since it was already shown his powers were depleted. If the roles were reversed and it was sentrys book and bob knocked Bruce out im sure he would have powered back up as well

Knowing what Mjolnir is capable of, I wouldn't put it past Thor being able to do it.

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/151/wwh026bg8.jpg/

What's interesting is those claiming Banner ran out of energy in the Sentry fight, not according to this scan. Banners eyes are still brimming with power.

Originally posted by TheGodKiller
You are .

No , you asked whether or not he was drained by Sentry or not , when you were told that he wasn't , you tried to imply that him reverting back to Banner was the result of Sentry draining him . I then showed you that Sentry reverted as well , which clearly tells us that he didn't drain Hulk . Got it now ?

I already acknowledged that gk keep up

Originally posted by Sin I AM
I already acknowledged that gk keep up

Do you think that I didn't notice your last reply to KuRuPT ? Problem is , I was already in the process of posting my reply to you , when you conceded .

So that's that .

Originally posted by TheGodKiller
Do you think that I didn't notice your last reply to KuRuPT ? Problem is , I was already in the process of posting my reply to you , when you conceded .

So that's that .

Xoxo

Originally posted by The Sorrow
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/151/wwh026bg8.jpg/

What's interesting is those claiming Banner ran out of energy in the Sentry fight, not according to this scan. Banners eyes are still brimming with power.

It's like the idea of running a race and you know you're opponent is behind you and so you slow down a little bit and forego reaching deep inside for sustained/increased speed.

At least, that is what I took away from that scene. Either way, I cannot remember the last time Hulk (much less WWH) had the gamma radiation literally beaten out of him as opposed to drained in this manner. It's a serious feat for Sentry's physicality.

Originally posted by ODG
Perhaps the notion being conveyed is that the energy WWH built up to take down Sentry was exhausted but that Banner realized he didn't need to amp himself further since he and Sentry were exhausting each others' power.

It's like the idea of running a race and you know you're opponent is behind you and so you slow down a little bit and forego reaching deep inside for sustained/increased speed.

At least, that is what I took away from that scene. Either way, I cannot remember the last time Hulk (much less WWH) had the gamma radiation literally beaten out of him as opposed to drained in this manner. It's a serious feat for Sentry's physicality.

I think it pretty much confirmed your interpretation of events when Sentry said his goodbyes towards the end of the fight. At that point there was no need for Banner to be enraged further and they both knew the fight was coming to an end.

What I do disagree with is the idea that the Sentry/WWH fight somehow proves Hulk can be drained back to Banner by any decent high herald or he can completely run out of power mid-fight.

That fight was far and away from being just a mere fist fight.

Hulk was taking a lot of damage. Same with Sentry. That he even turned back into Banner would make me think that he was getting "drained" but at the same time, he popped back to WWH basically as soon as he felt like it. So was it a drain? Yeah I guess. But an effective one, not so much.