Ozymandias vs...Black Panther

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Originally posted by JakeTheBank
It's legitimately baffling that people think Ozy beats T'Challa.

If either T'Challa or Cap tried to catch a bullet then it would go straight through their hands. This is why Ozy would own T'Challa

Originally posted by h1a8
If either T'Challa or Cap tried to catch a bullet then it would go straight through their hands. This is why Ozy would own T'Challa

You do realize that Ozzy had gloves on right? Who knows what those were made of.

Originally posted by tkitna
You do realize that Ozzy had gloves on right? Who knows what those were made of.

Only in the movie.

Originally posted by h1a8
If either T'Challa or Cap tried to catch a bullet then it would go straight through their hands. This is why Ozy would own T'Challa

That's ridiculous.

Based on feats Cap has shown or done, scientifically speaking, bullets are weak sauce compared to him.

Second of all, even if you decide to pit Ozy's best feat ever and compare to the vast history of feats against either T'Challa or Steve, how do you arbitrarily decide that one feat makes it so that Ozy "owns" T'Challa?

Shit's laughable to say the least.

Black Panther would annihilate Ozymandias, with ease. He's superior in every conceivable manner.

Hell ROBIN(Drake) would defeat Ozymandias.

He would barely even rate b-list alongside any of the two main comics book street-level martial artists.

Originally posted by Mshinu
Only in the movie.

I'm assuming thats who he's referring to, because the comic version was portrayed way weaker than the movie version in my opinion.

Going with him. 😎

Originally posted by tkitna
I'm assuming thats who he's referring to, because the comic version was portrayed way weaker than the movie version in my opinion.

An odd thing to assume since comic versions are default unless otherwise specified.

The bullet catching feat may be less valid in the movie since, as you suggest, the gloves may be bulletproof. The barehanded feat served to push Ozzy into the superhuman range in the comic, in the movie they added more fighting to make the point.

Ozymandias beat up an overweight old Nite Owl in the book (i'm not sure too many people have read that here). Rorschach did not display any skill whatsoever in the book and beating him is no feat.

BP wins this.

Originally posted by deathlife
Ozymandias beat up an overweight old Nite Owl in the book (i'm not sure too many people have read that here). Rorschach did not display any skill whatsoever in the book and beating him is no feat.

Ozzy did not even put his hands on Nite Owl iirc, he just blocked his laser with the lid of the soup bowl then took him out by throwing said lid at Dreiberg`s nose.

Rorschach tried to sneak up on Veidt from behind and attack him, twice. Both times he was efforlessly dispatched in three panels, the second time Ozzy does not even pause his ongoing monologue.

Originally posted by Mshinu
Ozzy did not even put his hands on Nite Owl iirc, he just blocked his laser with the lid of the soup bowl then took him out by throwing said lid at Dreiberg`s nose.

Rorschach tried to sneak up on Veidt from behind and attack him, twice. Both times he was efforlessly dispatched in three panels, the second time Ozzy does not even pause his ongoing monologue.

And this makes him look better than the movie version? If Ozzy wasnt shown smacking those two C-listers around in the movie, we wouldnt even be having this discussion.

BP is not going to lose this.

Originally posted by tkitna
And this makes him look better than the movie version? If Ozzy wasnt shown smacking those two C-listers around in the movie, we wouldnt even be having this discussion.

I was merely describing what took place in the comic. Why do you keep bringing up the movie anyway?

Originally posted by Mshinu
I was merely describing what took place in the comic. Why do you keep bringing up the movie anyway?
cause it was a movies?

Comic versions please guys

No one who chooses Ozymandias to win has an opinion worth respecting.

Does anyone else find it odd that H1a8 is against using high end feats for Marvel characters, yet his entire argument for Oz winning is based on his highest ever feat of "catching a bullet"?

It doesn't surprise me. H1a8 clearly trains at the carver9 School of Debate.

Originally posted by Mshinu
Ozzy did not even put his hands on Nite Owl iirc, he just blocked his laser with the lid of the soup bowl then took him out by throwing said lid at Dreiberg`s nose.

Rorschach tried to sneak up on Veidt from behind and attack him, twice. Both times he was efforlessly dispatched in three panels, the second time Ozzy does not even pause his ongoing monologue.

Yeah.

The book did make it clear that Nite Owl was well past his prime at this point.

Same with the Comedian who he brutally murdered at the beginning (although there was no fight scene in the book).

Ozymandias highest feat was bullet catching thing which seemed to have injured him (there was blood on his hand).

I can't really see BP losing this.

No one who knows anything about these characters thinks that Black Panther can lose.

Originally posted by panthergod
No one who knows anything about these characters thinks that Black Panther can lose.

Well he can lose... he just won't 😛