Black Racer vs. FP Kuurth · Comic Book 'Versus' Forum

Stoic Avenger

Originally posted by abhilegend
New gods are just extra-dimensional beings like asgardians and olympians. There is nothing magical or meta-physical about them. Considering superman has punched through his own death I find your nonsensical prattle about meta-physical and what not just that.....nonsensical.
Superman punches through his own death.
Superman: where is thy sting.

Not to mention that he was pounding away successfully on "meta-physical" Infinity man, I find this even more hilarious
http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af191/lgu88/Superman/Battles/villains/DeathOfTheNewGods07b.jpg
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Black racer didn't flinch on superman's punch because he is that durable. Oh and if you are trying to compare superman's feats to juggernaut's or kuurth's feats, don't. You wouldn't like to compare feats of durability to superman. For example this is what happens to galactus when sandwiched by two colliding planets
Barely alive. Now under the same writer i.e. Starlin this happened when superman was sandwiched between two planets
http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af191/lgu88/Superman/Crazy%20Feats/DeathOfTheNewGods08a.jpg
http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af191/lgu88/Superman/Crazy%20Feats/DeathOfTheNewGods08b.jpg
http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af191/lgu88/Superman/Crazy%20Feats/DeathOfTheNewGods08c.jpg
Now I'm not saying that superman is more durable than galactus but to compare high end feats with superman is futile.
No they are neither magical nor meta-physical.

None of that mattered in the least. You say nonsensical in an attempt to dismiss, without really proving a thing. Superman has been cut by things that would not cut Kuurth. Superman can die, Kuurth can not, if you placed Kuurth in an airless non lit frozen void, and placed Superman right there with him, guess who would die first? Yeah thats right. Sing it.

You have nothing to prove that Kuurth will lose. None of what you showed bears any relevance.

Galan007 |Quantum Observer|

"New Gods are incredibly powerful living ideas from a kind of platonic, archetypal world.":

That is likely why Orion's body (which, again, is composed almost entirely of pure energy) began 'dissipating' back to the Source immediately after he was killed:

So I think I could agree with the notion that New Gods are metaphysical beings. However, they are certainly not 'magical' beings. Never once have they been defined as such... They are no more 'magical' than Monitors are.

abhilegend Prince of All Saiyans

Originally posted by Stoic
None of that mattered in the least. You say nonsensical in an attempt to dismiss, without really proving a thing. Superman has been cut by things that would not cut Kuurth. Superman can die, Kuurth can not, if you placed Kuurth in an airless non lit frozen void, and placed Superman right there with him, guess who would die first? Yeah thats right. Sing it.
You have nothing to prove that Kuurth will lose. None of what you showed bears any relevance.

Really? What has cut superman? Not even persuader's axe has cut superman

Originally posted by abhilegend
Well, wolverine isn't cutting superman.

That's persuader's axe and later in the same comic cut open a rift in time and space.

Take it with shatterstar blinding juggernaut

What did kuurth faced that was so powerful that superman couldn't withstand it?

Stoic Avenger

Originally posted by abhilegend
Really? What has cut superman? Not even persuader's axe has cut superman
Take it with shatterstar blinding juggernaut
What did kuurth faced that was so powerful that superman couldn't withstand it?

Juggernaut was cut by a magical blade, why do you think that Wolvies claws slide off of him? Cmon man.

Doomsday's punches have always had a way of cutting Superman. I don't have time for the BS Abhi. You know as well as anyone that Superman has been cut by things that would bounce off of the Juggernaut. Every time Captain Marvel punches Superman he opens the bridge of his nose. Are you starting to remember? Kuurth would twist Superman head off, once he realizes that his punches do no damage and his heat rays are useless. He will then try the grappling technique and get owned.

You really arent arguing that Superman is as resilient as Cain are you? He isn't, nor can he outlive Cain. Juggernaut does not tire, he requires nothing, Superman on the other hand. you get me?

abhilegend Prince of All Saiyans

Originally posted by Stoic
Juggernaut was cut by a magical blade, why do you think that Wolvies claws slide off of him? Cmon man.
Doomsday's punches have always had a way of cutting Superman. I don't have time for the BS Abhi. You know as well as anyone that Superman has been cut by things that would bounce off of the Juggernaut. Every time Captain Marvel punches Superman he opens the bridge of his nose. Are you starting to remember? Kuurth would twist Superman head off, once he realizes that his punches do no damage and his heat rays are useless. He will then try the grappling technique and get owned.
You really arent arguing that Superman is as resilient as Cain are you? He isn't, nor can he outlive Cain. Juggernaut does not tire, he requires nothing, Superman on the other hand. you get me?

Nope. You are the one going by feats and what not. Doomsday has cut superman at less than full power in DOS and when he was adapting in H/P. Captain marvel has only bloddied superman when he was weakened by kryptonite otherwise it was just a concussion.

Cap has a specific weakness of superman with almost equal strength to him. Shatterstar doesn't. Your fantasies have no place here. You are just riding on Juggernaut's so called invulnerability. Well so much for his vaunted invulnerability

Oh and everybody pretends this doesn't exist

Where are all the feats of kuurth shrugging of attacks that would kill superman? All I'm doing is giving feats which you are not.

Stoic Avenger

The Hulk knocked Juggernaut's helm off, and hit him with a very powerful TP backlash. Onslaught was an off panel situation, so anything could have happened there. Artist depictions differ. Do you have the scans of McGuiness's art in Batman/Superman when Billy pops Superman in the face? You should get that one. Doomsday has cut him where you see blood fly out of his mouth. how many guys has made blood fly out of Superman's mouth. Be honest. Cain was reduced to a skeleton by magical forces and remained on his feet. I think the guy that did that to him was named D'spayre? Something like that.

It's not the attacks that Kuurth shrugged off, but that he was far more powerful than he was when he shrugged off Thor's double hammer. Superman would have felt that hit. Cain again in a much weaker form did not. It would take far more to turn Cain into a skeleton than it would for Superman. That's all that matters here, not what Kuurth went through that Superman could not.

abhilegend Prince of All Saiyans

Originally posted by Stoic
The Hulk knocked Juggernaut's helm off, and hit him with a very powerful TP backlash. Onslaught was an off panel situation, so anything could have happened there. Artist depictions differ. Do you have the scans of McGuiness's art in Batman/Superman when Billy pops Superman in the face? You should get that one. Doomsday has cut him where you see blood fly out of his mouth. how many guys has made blood fly out of Superman's mouth. Be honest. Cain was reduced to a skeleton by magical forces and remained on his feet. I think the guy that did that to him was named D'spayre? Something like that.
It's not the attacks that Kuurth shrugged off, but that he was far more powerful than he was when he shrugged off Thor's double hammer. Superman would have felt that hit. Cain again in a much weaker form did not. It would take far more to turn Cain into a skeleton than it would for Superman. That's all that matters here, not what Kuurth went through that Superman could not.

Juggernaut was on his knees gasping for his breath with two hits from professor hulk as shown on panel. There is no mention of a TP backlash. Except it was just a physical attack which sent juggernaut from one country to another and it koed him. Superman was weakened by kryptonite in that instance and doomsday only bloddied him after a prolonged battle when his solar reserves were depleted and in H/P when he specifically adapted to superman's physiology to produce a poison which weakened superman. Otherwise he tanked a punch from doomsday initially without even budging

Again superman tanks an attack without any scratch which nearly killed galactus

http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af191/lgu88/Superman/Crazy%20Feats/DeathOfTheNewGods08a.jpg
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As for godblast, superman survives the destruction of the source wall here

http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Superman/DOTNG7p21-22.jpg

Oh and about thor being unable to affect juggernaut. It was his force-field which kuurth doesn't have on him. Without his force-field Thor nearly koed juggernaut with just punches