Color Lanterns Heavy Hitters Vs Marvel's Best

Started by abhilegend3 pages

Originally posted by Galan007
I haven't read the Blackest Night affair since it came out... When did BL Kal dimension hop?

Lanterns effortlessly win, btw.


Kal-L could travel between dimensions.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Kal-L could travel between dimensions.
Certainly you aren't referring to this:

Kal was only able to 'dimension-hop' in that instance because there were literal 'walls of reality' which he could physically strike. If said walls wouldn't have been there, he would have been stuck in that pocket dimension. Same coin, Superboy Prime was only able to cause retcons because he was also striking those walls.

So again, what's stopping Kal from getting BFR'd? I mean, if Surfer teleported him a few hundred light years away, how would he get back in a reasonable amount of time? It's not like he can travel vast distances by punching thin air...

Originally posted by Galan007
Certainly you aren't referring to this:

Kal was only able to 'dimension-hop' in that instance because there were literal 'walls of reality' which he could physically strike. If said walls wouldn't have been there, he would have been stuck in that pocket dimension. Same coin, Superboy Prime was only able to cause retcons because he was also striking those walls.

So again, what's stopping Kal from getting BFR'd? I mean, if Surfer teleported him a few hundred light years away, how would he get back in a reasonable amount of time? It's not like he can travel vast distances by punching thin air...


No, his pre crisis feats. What's the biggest distance surfer has teleported someone or himself? We're talking about someone who could travel to the edge of universe in a few panels.

Did he dimension hop in Infinite Crisis or Blackest Night at all?

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Did he dimension hop in Infinite Crisis or Blackest Night at all?

Does it matter?

Yes, I'd say it does.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Did he dimension hop in Infinite Crisis or Blackest Night at all?
No, but abhil is going to try and use his silver age feats as proof that he could if he wanted to... Even though Kal seemed roughly on par with mainstream Supes (who is certainly not on par with 'true' silver age Kryptonians.) /shrug

Btw abhil: when did Kal travel across the universe in a few panels?

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Yes, I'd say it does.

No it doesn't.
Originally posted by Galan007
No, but abhil is going to try and use his silver age feats as proof that he could if he wanted to... Even though Kal seemed roughly on par with mainstream Supes (who is certainly not on par with 'true' silver age Kryptonians.) /shrug

Btw abhil: when did Kal travel across the universe in a few panels?


That doesn't discount his feats which are still in canon. FWIW byrne superman looked slightly inferior to PC superboy too. Let me look in my comics, I think its one of DCP comic.

I'd say it doesn't matter anyway as this is borderline spite against Marvel's "best".

Originally posted by abhilegend
No it doesn't.
That doesn't discount his feats which are still in canon. FWIW byrne superman looked slightly inferior to PC superboy too. Let me look in my comics, I think its one of DCP comic.
Post-IC Kal was never painted in a 'true' silver age light. Mainstream Supes seemed to be his equal; arguably his superior--and neither of them were a match for Superboy Prime (who STILL wasn't depicted in a 'true' silver age light.) Feat-wise, true silver age Kryptonians>>Superboy Prime>Superman=/>post-IC Kal.

Either way, I think your digging deep in saying that BL Kal is un-BFRable. He could be, but I personally don't think feats he allegedly preformed decades prior necessarily apply to his post-IC incarnations/depictions. /shrug

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
I'd say it doesn't matter anyway as this is borderline spite against Marvel's "best".
It IS spite.

Originally posted by Galan007
Post-IC Kal was never painted in a 'true' silver age light. Mainstream Supes seemed to be his equal; arguably his superior--and neither of them were a match for Superboy Prime (who STILL wasn't depicted in a 'true' silver age light.) Feat-wise, true silver age Kryptonians>>Superboy Prime>Superman=/>post-IC Kal.

Either way, I think your digging deep in saying that BL Kal is un-BFRable. He could be, but I personally don't think feats he allegedly preformed decades prior necessarily apply to his post-IC incarnations/depictions. /shrug

It IS spite.


Yeah just his total history on Earth-two was told as it was in superman 226. You are taking it like every silver age character sneezed solar systems away. SBP was absolutely in bronze age superman's league who was superior to Kal-L. Still doesn't discount his feats.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Yeah just his total history on Earth-two was told as it was in superman 226. You are taking it like every silver age character sneezed solar systems away. SBP was absolutely in bronze age superman's league who was superior to Kal-L. Still doesn't discount his feats.
The feats still happened, obviously. You just can't really apply those silver age showings to post-IC Kal, as he was definitely not portrayed on that level. Again, mainstream Superman was no less than equal to Kal--and mainstream Supes<<a true silver age Kryptonian.

Originally posted by Galan007
The feats still happened, obviously. You just can't really apply those silver age showings to post-IC Kal, as he was definitely not portrayed on that level. Again, mainstream Superman was no less than equal to Kal--and mainstream Supes<<a true silver age Kryptonian.

If the feats happened then they are applicable. Like I said byrne superman stalemated PC superboy and knocked out pre ZH Mon-El who was a confirmed planet mover. Its ridiculous to discount feats because superman stalemated him in a fight which broke down time and space. He was also about as fast as zoom who blitzed superman. Though superman<<< sixties' superman, he isn't far behind from depowered 70's superman.

Originally posted by abhilegend
If the feats happened then they are applicable.
Even if the character was depicted as significantly less powerful in more current continuity?

Yeah, I can't really follow that logic.

Originally posted by Galan007
Even if the character was depicted as significantly less powerful in more current continuity?

Yeah, I can't really follow that logic.


Based upon a fight where time and space are broken? Yeah he was really taken down as a powerhouse.🙄

Originally posted by abhilegend
Based upon a fight where time and space are broken? Yeah he was really taken down as a powerhouse.🙄
Yep. It took Kal AND mainstream Supes just to pin down Superboy Prime. If he were at his silver age levels, he would have effortlessly soloed Prime... Just seems like you want to use decades-old feats to try and make Kal seem more impressive than Johns depicted him in post-IC continuity. /shrug

Regardless, the Lanterns win in a spitey fashion... Even if Kal is taken out of the picture.

Originally posted by Galan007
Yep. It took Kal AND mainstream Supes just to pin down Superboy Prime. If he were at his silver age levels, he would have effortlessly soloed Prime... Just seems like you want to use decades-old feats to try and make Kal seem more impressive than Johns depicted him in post-IC continuity. /shrug

Regardless, the Lanterns win in a spitey fashion... Even if Kal is taken out of the picture.


Prime was treated as a full powered bronze age kryptonians who were stronger than Kal-L at the time. There is no shame in that.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Prime was treated as a full powered bronze age kryptonians who were stronger than Kal-L at the time. There is no shame in that.
So you agree that Kal was NOT treated as a full powered silver/bronze age kryptonian, then? 😉

Originally posted by Galan007
So you agree that Kal was NOT treated as a full powered silver/bronze age kryptonian, then? 😉

He wasn't to begin with. His feats are still applicable which includes him travelling between dimensions and the edge of universe in a few panels.

WTF are you even arguing about? 😂