Originally posted by abhilegendCertainly you aren't referring to this:
Kal-L could travel between dimensions.
Kal was only able to 'dimension-hop' in that instance because there were literal 'walls of reality' which he could physically strike. If said walls wouldn't have been there, he would have been stuck in that pocket dimension. Same coin, Superboy Prime was only able to cause retcons because he was also striking those walls.
So again, what's stopping Kal from getting BFR'd? I mean, if Surfer teleported him a few hundred light years away, how would he get back in a reasonable amount of time? It's not like he can travel vast distances by punching thin air...
Originally posted by Galan007
Certainly you aren't referring to this:
Kal was only able to 'dimension-hop' in that instance because there were literal 'walls of reality' which he could physically strike. If said walls wouldn't have been there, he would have been stuck in that pocket dimension. Same coin, Superboy Prime was only able to cause retcons because he was also striking those walls.
So again, what's stopping Kal from getting BFR'd? I mean, if Surfer teleported him a few hundred light years away, how would he get back in a reasonable amount of time? It's not like he can travel vast distances by punching thin air...
Originally posted by JakeTheBankNo, but abhil is going to try and use his silver age feats as proof that he could if he wanted to... Even though Kal seemed roughly on par with mainstream Supes (who is certainly not on par with 'true' silver age Kryptonians.) /shrug
Did he dimension hop in Infinite Crisis or Blackest Night at all?
Btw abhil: when did Kal travel across the universe in a few panels?
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Yes, I'd say it does.
Originally posted by Galan007
No, but abhil is going to try and use his silver age feats as proof that he could if he wanted to... Even though Kal seemed roughly on par with mainstream Supes (who is certainly not on par with 'true' silver age Kryptonians.) /shrugBtw abhil: when did Kal travel across the universe in a few panels?
Originally posted by abhilegendPost-IC Kal was never painted in a 'true' silver age light. Mainstream Supes seemed to be his equal; arguably his superior--and neither of them were a match for Superboy Prime (who STILL wasn't depicted in a 'true' silver age light.) Feat-wise, true silver age Kryptonians>>Superboy Prime>Superman=/>post-IC Kal.
No it doesn't.
That doesn't discount his feats which are still in canon. FWIW byrne superman looked slightly inferior to PC superboy too. Let me look in my comics, I think its one of DCP comic.
Either way, I think your digging deep in saying that BL Kal is un-BFRable. He could be, but I personally don't think feats he allegedly preformed decades prior necessarily apply to his post-IC incarnations/depictions. /shrug
Originally posted by JakeTheBankIt IS spite.
I'd say it doesn't matter anyway as this is borderline spite against Marvel's "best".
Originally posted by Galan007
Post-IC Kal was never painted in a 'true' silver age light. Mainstream Supes seemed to be his equal; arguably his superior--and neither of them were a match for Superboy Prime (who STILL wasn't depicted in a 'true' silver age light.) Feat-wise, true silver age Kryptonians>>Superboy Prime>Superman=/>post-IC Kal.Either way, I think your digging deep in saying that BL Kal is un-BFRable. He could be, but I personally don't think feats he allegedly preformed decades prior necessarily apply to his post-IC incarnations/depictions. /shrug
It IS spite.
Originally posted by abhilegendThe feats still happened, obviously. You just can't really apply those silver age showings to post-IC Kal, as he was definitely not portrayed on that level. Again, mainstream Superman was no less than equal to Kal--and mainstream Supes<<a true silver age Kryptonian.
Yeah just his total history on Earth-two was told as it was in superman 226. You are taking it like every silver age character sneezed solar systems away. SBP was absolutely in bronze age superman's league who was superior to Kal-L. Still doesn't discount his feats.
Originally posted by Galan007
The feats still happened, obviously. You just can't really apply those silver age showings to post-IC Kal, as he was definitely not portrayed on that level. Again, mainstream Superman was no less than equal to Kal--and mainstream Supes<<a true silver age Kryptonian.
Originally posted by abhilegendYep. It took Kal AND mainstream Supes just to pin down Superboy Prime. If he were at his silver age levels, he would have effortlessly soloed Prime... Just seems like you want to use decades-old feats to try and make Kal seem more impressive than Johns depicted him in post-IC continuity. /shrug
Based upon a fight where time and space are broken? Yeah he was really taken down as a powerhouse.🙄
Regardless, the Lanterns win in a spitey fashion... Even if Kal is taken out of the picture.
Originally posted by Galan007
Yep. It took Kal AND mainstream Supes just to pin down Superboy Prime. If he were at his silver age levels, he would have effortlessly soloed Prime... Just seems like you want to use decades-old feats to try and make Kal seem more impressive than Johns depicted him in post-IC continuity. /shrugRegardless, the Lanterns win in a spitey fashion... Even if Kal is taken out of the picture.