Silver Surfer vs Kuurth

Started by ODG3 pages

Originally posted by keiththegreat
Well, Thor's own magical lightning bolt has one-shot KO'ed him twice that I know of. While Superman was not one-shotted by Thor's magic lightning....So there's one example.
Read the forum rules. Don't mention crossovers.

Thor doesn't get messed up by vampires and werewolves, Superman does. That's a proper example.

Surfer wins, draws Kuurth into the Astral Plane and leave him there to rot. Or ties his lifeforce to a rock and punts it into deep space.

Or just annihilates him with a few planet destroying blasts...

Originally posted by ODG
Read the forum rules. Don't mention crossovers.

Thor doesn't get messed up by vampires and werewolves, Superman does. That's a proper example.

Crossovers have nothing to do with Thor being one shot by magical lightning. I can point out LOTS of examples of magical lightning not one-shotting Superman without discussing crossovers (and despite Thor fanboys whining, Superman beating Thor's a** is canon). Sounds like you're alittle butt hurt over Thor being one shot by his own lightning twice. Especially when Amadeus Cho and Diablo are the one's doing the one-shotting. It's ok really. He's been one shot by skyfather's magic attacks, Superman has resisted them. Thor's been transmuted by magic, whereas Superman has resisted magical transmutation. Really, even beyond magical resistance, Thor has been one of the worst glass jaws in comics lately. Hulk grabbing his arm and one shotting him with his own hammer is just embarassing. And what's sad is, that's the THIRD TIME a hulk has beaten Thor senseless with his own hammer. I don't even think he should be considered a high herald anymore.

This is really the Surfer's fight to lose, but if he decides to fight him like he fought Thanos, he's gonna to get tuned up.

Originally posted by keiththegreat
Crossovers have nothing to do with Thor being one shot by magical lightning. I can point out LOTS of examples of magical lightning not one-shotting Superman. Sounds like you're alittle butt hurt over Thor being one shot by his own lightning twice. Especially when Amadeus Cho and Diablo are the one's doing the one-shotting. It's ok really. He's been one shot by skyfather's magic attacks, Superman has resisted them. Thor's been transmuted by magic, whereas Superman has resisted magical transmutation. Really, even beyond magical resistance, Thor has been one of the worst glass jaws in comics lately. Hulk grabbing his arm and one shotting him with his own hammer is just embarassing. And what's sad is, that's the THIRD TIME a hulk has beaten Thor senseless with his own hammer. I don't even think he should be considered a high herald anymore.

Thor's a high-herald alright, just that Hulk is an abstract m-body.

HulkForce not only empowers Marvel's omniverse, it also powers Oa with its residues.

Surfer wins, for the record.

Originally posted by keiththegreat
Crossovers have nothing to do with Thor being one shot by magical lightning. I can point out LOTS of examples of magical lightning not one-shotting Superman without discussing crossovers (and despite Thor fanboys whining, Superman beating Thor's a** is canon). Sounds like you're alittle butt hurt over Thor being one shot by his own lightning twice. Especially when Amadeus Cho and Diablo are the one's doing the one-shotting. It's ok really. He's been one shot by skyfather's magic attacks, Superman has resisted them. Thor's been transmuted by magic, whereas Superman has resisted magical transmutation. Really, even beyond magical resistance, Thor has been one of the worst glass jaws in comics lately. Hulk grabbing his arm and one shotting him with his own hammer is just embarassing. And what's sad is, that's the THIRD TIME a hulk has beaten Thor senseless with his own hammer. I don't even think he should be considered a high herald anymore.
Thor getting messed up by Mjolnir and his own lightning isn't surprising. Airwalker did it decades before Hulk. Acting like this is anything new only reveals your ignorance. It's like trying to hold Cap getting clonked with his own shield. The sheer surprise of having your own weapons turned against you has as much to do with its effectiveness as its actual power, otherwise you'd have to conclude that Thor's lightning > Zeus'. Needless to say, I don't believe you are that stupid.

Bu I suppose mentioning Superman getting messed up by simple werewolves and vampires did induce your anal leakage. It was meant to as a proper example that relies on evidence. Real evidence. Not crossovers that don't count. So I forgive the tone of your post.

If you guys want to engage in a lowballing contest between Superman and Thor, Thor is not going to come out looking better, I can guarantee that.

haha...Zeus was toying with Thor, so that analogy doesn't really work. Nice try though.

^ Mhmm. You wrap yourself up in that tired excuse of a security blanket.

Originally posted by PillarofOsiris
If you guys want to engage in a lowballing contest between Superman and Thor, Thor is not going to come out looking better, I can guarantee that.
IN magic resistance? Don't make me laugh. I want comedians, I'll take in a show.

Originally posted by ODG
^ Mhmm. You wrap yourself up in that tired excuse of a security blanket.

So you think Zeus was trying to kill Thor and it took Zeus months and he still couldn't kill him? Mhmm. Wow, talk about a fanboy. So I guess you think Thor is a skyfather, who got one shot by Amadeus Cho, right? Okeedokee.

^ Are we operating in a world where Zeus can only be toying with Thor or trying to kill him? Nice false dichotomy. And by nice, I mean dimwitted. Don't bother offering shallow, insipid remarks. I don't have the patience to deal with them no matter how easily they're defused.

Thor being knocked senseless by his own lightning when he is utterly unexpecting it has happened before, e.g., Masterson Thor. It's happened with other characters and their own weapons/attacks enough that it's a common comic book trope. But feel free to continue thinking that Thor's lightning is superior to Zeus' and Bor's lightning to support your inane supposition that Superman has comparable magic resistance to Thor via inadmissiable and irrelevant crossover evidence.

Superman tanked multiple shazam lightnings and attacks from shazam himself. He tanked a magical attack attack that tore a skyfather to shreds while weakened.

Originally posted by ODG
^ Mhmm. You wrap yourself up in that tired excuse of a security blanket. IN magic resistance? Don't make me laugh. I want comedians, I'll take in a show.

lol. You must be the comedian. Did I say "magic resistance" somewhere in my post? And while I didn't say it, I will say that Thor and Superman's magical resistance is AT LEAST comparable, despite what most people who are ignorant about Superman think. But I really don't feel like having this debate with you again, so go right ahead and believe whatever you want.

Originally posted by PillarofOsiris
lol. You must be the comedian. Did I say "magic resistance" somewhere in my post? And while I didn't say it, I will say that Thor and Superman's magical resistance is AT LEAST comparable, despite what most people who are ignorant about Superman think. But I really don't feel like having this debate with you again, so go right ahead and believe whatever you want.
It is what we were discussing and all that we were discussing. I don't feel compelled to apologize for assuming that you actually read our conversation and understood the issue being discussed before butting in.

Superman does not have comparable magic resistance. He has a handful of normal high herald feats. The rest of his feats make him look awful. And by awful, I mean "helpess as a kitten." Not my own words. On-panel, it's been compared to his weakness to kryptonite numerous times (though not as bad as Kryptonite by Superman's own estimation), but that it's even mentioned in the same breath so often only makes it how obvious his magic vulnerability is.

Silver Surfer and Thor do not share this. Such comparisons are forced and deluded at best. And that shouldn't chafe. It's how they're written.

Silver surfer was koed by a magical teleportation, koed by a magical broom to the head and helpless against an atlantean sorcerer with a magical knife.

Thor looked helpless as a kitten when he was magically transmuted. Hmmm....

Originally posted by keiththegreat
Thor looked helpless as a kitten when he was magically transmuted. Hmmm....
Are you trying to compare Grey Gargoyle's tried and proven powers to Skyhook's? Thor's not helpless as a kitten to magical fire, magical hypnosis and doesn't get roughed up something fierce by normal vampires and werewolves. Don't even attempt this. Judging by your reaction, I might actually make you cry if I started scan-blitzing you.

Blaze and disciple failed to transmute superman and superman just tanked etrigan's hellfire.

Originally posted by janus77
Surfer wins, draws Kuurth into the Astral Plane and leave him there to rot. Or ties his lifeforce to a rock and punts it into deep space.

Or just annihilates him with a few planet destroying blasts...

I think you forgot that that they teleported kuurth into a black hole and his
Enchantment instantly brought him back.

Bfr doesnt work on kuurt.