Silver Surfer vs Kuurth

Started by Stoic3 pages
Originally posted by abhilegend
Superman tanked multiple shazam lightnings and attacks from shazam himself. He tanked a magical attack attack that tore a skyfather to shreds while weakened.

Was Kal eclipsed in that scene?

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
I think you forgot that that they teleported kuurth into a black hole and his
Enchantment instantly brought him back.

Bfr doesnt work on kuurt.

They teleported him inside a sun (after trying the bottom of the sea and a low Earth orbit), not into a black hole.

But, yes, BFR does not seem to be a viable option here.

Originally posted by Stoic
Was Kal eclipsed in that scene?

In first instance yes, in second no. Eclipso doesn't increase magical resistance anyway.

Originally posted by abhilegend
In first instance yes, in second no. Eclipso doesn't increase magical resistance anyway.

But he does increase tolerance to a body that would otherwise never seek to undergo higher levels of pain no? Superman may have died if Shazam kept hitting him.

Originally posted by Stoic
But he does increase tolerance to a body that would otherwise never seek to undergo higher levels of pain no? Superman may have died if Shazam kept hitting him.

No. Eclipso actually gets weaker with solar radiation you know superman's power source. All he had at that point after nearly a dozen shazam bolts was a nosebleed.

Originally posted by abhilegend
No. Eclipso actually gets weaker with solar radiation you know superman's power source. All he had at that point after nearly a dozen shazam bolts was a nosebleed.

And a badly burned chest. According to dialog, I thought Shazam would have kiiled him if he continued to fire on him.

Originally posted by Stoic
But he does increase tolerance to a body that would otherwise never seek to undergo higher levels of pain no? Superman may have died if Shazam kept hitting him.
Yes. Lois Eclipso was smacking Superman around.

Originally posted by Stoic
And a badly burned chest. According to dialog, I thought Shazam would have kiiled him if he continued to fire on him.

Burning chest hair doesn't mean burnt chest. Not by the on panel depiction.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Burning chest hair doesn't mean burnt chest. Not by the on panel depiction.

On panel dialog made me believe that Kal would have been put out if Shazam continued bombarding him with magical bolts. All the same, it wasn't a low showing by Superman in the least. It was effing Shazam throwing lightning at him, not Wally the stage Mage. You know what I'm saying?

In my opinion Superman as another poster mentioned isn't as much weak to magic, but it is a vulnerability to him. Meaning he absorbs every impact, and they hurt.

Originally posted by Stoic
Has the Surfer ever transmuted adamantium, or turned air into it?
I doubt it. It's just one of those things which we think of doing with the powerset that the characters never seem to actually try. Probably because instantly encasing every opponent in adamantium would end most fights pretty quickly and get stale.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
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He's also shown to be consistently portrayed to be at a disadvantage when dealing with magic.

If you look at both their respective histories, I don't see how anyone can honestly say that Superman deals with magic better regularly than Thor does.

You can't and that isn't debatable

Originally posted by basilisk
I doubt it. It's just one of those things which we think of doing with the powerset that the characters never seem to actually try. Probably because instantly encasing every opponent in adamantium would end most fights pretty quickly and get stale.

for my part, i've always sorta tried rationalizing that particular issue (ss transmuting adamantium) by believing ss wouldn't know HOW to create adamantiumn. it's not natural, but man-made. now, were he to spend a little time analyzing it, sure he could almost certainly synthesize it (he was able to synthesize the odin force after all, so how hard could it be for him to synthesize adamantium?)

any kind of rational approach to using Surfer's powers end up with the opposition's eyeballs having Adamantium skewers through them and their brain being dumped in a blackhole.

I'd really love to see Surfer do a Plutonian for a few issues, cut loose and be as sick as he can imagine.

It would take the intervention of some seriously determined skyfather to save Earth from a malicious Surfer.

Originally posted by janus77
any kind of rational approach to using Surfer's powers end up with the opposition's eyeballs having Adamantium skewers through them and their brain being dumped in a blackhole.

I'd really love to see Surfer do a Plutonian for a few issues, cut loose and be as sick as he can imagine.

It would take the intervention of some seriously determined skyfather to save Earth from a malicious Surfer.

Yeah a evil surfer that gives 0 ****s would be a nightmare.

I need to read the issue where Surfer synthesized the OdinForce... It's probably an easy way for him to win this match here.

Just disconnect Kuurth from his master's voice and then simply atomise him.

Originally posted by Stoic
Has the Surfer ever transmuted adamantium, or turned air into it?

Yeah, sort of...in the second Annihilators book he transmuted adamantine.

Originally posted by Mr Marvel
Yeah, sort of...in the second Annihilators book he transmuted adamantine.
I don't recall that at all?