Originally posted by red sabreIt is PIS due to Zeus power level, not Hercules. It is Zeus who punished Atlas to support the heavens. That means it was Zeus' power that caused the heavens to be supported.
spider man beating firelord is PIS based on the fact he failed to beat weaker opponents during most of his career and based on how his powers were established thruought the years therefor firelord is out of his league.hercules never failed to lift anything he supported a whole city, shook the earth while arm wrestling, and now held the heavens, nothing wrong with that because he is just that strong and never failed to lift anything in the first place.
If Zeus was making Atlas support the whole universe then that my friend is PIS and contradicts the entire history of events in Marvel, even more so than Spider-man beating Firelord. Zeus by his showings and history of events doesn't have that type of power, which is beyond Galactus and Celestials themselves.
Originally posted by red sabre
show me gladiator being able to move planets, he is not on a planetary level , i got a huge closet in my troom , i can break that closet with multiple strikes like gladiator did but does it mean i can lift it? or even move it? prove gladiator can move a planet.
LOL, what you don't know is that anyone with flight powers can move a planet if they pushed long enough.
F=MA
That means A=F/M
That means with a very small force you would get a very small acceleration.
That is why the Hercules Thor feat wasn't that great. It took them a whole day of arm wrestling just to barely move the Earth out of orbit. This is a very small acceleration and thus a relatively small force.
Now if someone moves a planet instantly then this is astronomically more force than taking a whole day to move it (like what Superman did).
Gladiator did move a planet sized or celestial sized object in space with great acceleration before. This means he could move a much larger object but with a smaller accelerating though.
Originally posted by red sabre
WWH is a much stronger version of hulk than the one was beating on gladiator like a step child, hercules didnt even want to fight WWH and yet he did better by delivering the first blow and make WWH gush green blood, then he just stood there and took the hits, gladiator was fighting a weaker hulk and couldnt do antyhing to him just getting raped, and no hercules didnt almost die he was bruised but nothing special , considering the fact he was just standing and not fighting its amazing he didnt get knocked out in the first place.hercules vs WWH + context >>>>>>>> gladiator getting owned by weaker hulk
Hulk used Gladiators own powers/weaknesses against him, it's not as if he just pound him into submission like he did Hercules. That scan you posted of Hulk beating on Glads were after he was already semi-unconscious. Gladiator lost but he didn't lose because Hulk overpowered him.
Originally posted by h1a8
It is PIS due to Zeus power level, not Hercules. It is Zeus who punished Atlas to support the heavens. That means it was Zeus' power that caused the heavens to be supported.If Zeus was making Atlas support the whole universe then that my friend is PIS and contradicts the entire history of events in Marvel, even more so than Spider-man beating Firelord. Zeus by his showings and history of events doesn't have that type of power, which is beyond Galactus and Celestials themselves.
wtf are you talking about? why cant zeus hold the heavens? and we are talking about hercules here hello, hercules was holding the heavens and you claim its PIS based on what exactly? he never failed to lift anything before so wtf is your problem with this feat again?
Originally posted by h1a8
LOL, what you don't know is that anyone with flight powers can move a planet if they pushed long enough.F=MA
That means A=F/M
That means with a very small force you would get a very small acceleration.
That is why the Hercules Thor feat wasn't that great. It took them a whole day of arm wrestling just to barely move the Earth out of orbit. This is a very small acceleration and thus a relatively small force.Now if someone moves a planet instantly then this is astronomically more force than taking a whole day to move it (like what Superman did).
Gladiator did move a planet sized or celestial sized object in space with great acceleration before. This means he could move a much larger object but with a smaller accelerating though.
nop you are talking too much bullshit, its not enough to fly you need the strength to be able to move the entire weight of the planet from its course, namor can fly so he can move a planet? jhony storm the human torch can fly so he can move a planet? jean grey can fly so she can move a planet? that has to be the dumbest thing i have yet to hear on kmc.
i will say it again show me a feat of gladiator moving a planet otherwise he cant .
Originally posted by red sabre
wtf are you talking about? why cant zeus hold the heavens? and we are talking about hercules here hello, hercules was holding the heavens and you claim its PIS based on what exactly? he never failed to lift anything before so wtf is your problem with this feat again?
Zeus can't make the heavens collaspe upon someone for the same reasons Galactus can't, Celestials can't, nor can other skyfathers or elder gods. He's not powerful enough by going with his history of showings. It's PIS at his highest level.
Originally posted by The Sorrow
True but not fighting back doesn't lower your durability or strength, Hercules himself stated Hulk would have killed him if he didn't hold back those punches.Hulk used Gladiators own powers/weaknesses against him, it's not as if he just pound him into submission like he did Hercules. That scan you posted of Hulk beating on Glads were after he was already semi-unconscious. Gladiator lost but he didn't lose because Hulk overpowered him.
when you are fighting you are filled with adrenalin and destastoron dont tell me you dont know this, that makes you more durable and makes it much easier for you to take hits, thats why when people fight they dont feel pain but after the fight they are in hurt, hercules wasnt fighting he wasnt mad he was just standing and chilling therefor it was harder for him to indure a punch than when he is angry and wants to fight.
even when he didnt want to fight he still punched WWH and made him gush blood, gladiator couldnt do anything to a weaker form of hulk while trying to kill him.
you are lying and twisting things, gladiator was trying to fight hulk but he got raped fair and square no special context of hidden plot device was involved in it, hulk simply beat the living shit out of gladiator, that hulk was much weaker than the WWH version hercules faced, and hercules while standing and not fighting still did better than gladiator by delivering a punch without any real hurting intentions and actually hurting a much stronger version of hulk.
Originally posted by h1a8
Zeus can't make the heavens collaspe upon someone for the same reasons Galactus can't, Celestials can't, nor can other skyfathers or elder gods. He's not powerful enough by going with his history of showings. It's PIS at his highest level.
whos said he cant? he is an elite skyfather, besides what are the heavens? its the universe, zeus cant effect the universe? really? its not PIS.
Originally posted by h1a8
LOL, what you don't know is that anyone with flight powers can move a planet if they pushed long enough.F=MA
That means A=F/M
That means with a very small force you would get a very small acceleration.
That is why the Hercules Thor feat wasn't that great. It took them a whole day of arm wrestling just to barely move the Earth out of orbit. This is a very small acceleration and thus a relatively small force.Now if someone moves a planet instantly then this is astronomically more force than taking a whole day to move it (like what Superman did).
Gladiator did move a planet sized or celestial sized object in space with great acceleration before. This means he could move a much larger object but with a smaller accelerating though.
Of course, this ignores the gravitational pull from everything else in that solar system.........which is what you're flying against.
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