Originally posted by quanchi112
Sentry, Hulk are both stronger.
I was going to be done with this thread but then I saw this nonsense. What feats would you say place Sentry above Superman in physical strength? I can't wait to hear this. (although I have to woner (great word) why I care what a guy who thinks Thanos solos a Celestial thinks).
Thor is stronger than Savage Hulk. It’s Hulk’s ability to increase his strength and durability beyond Thor is what allows him to fight at his level. If Savage Hulk started out stronger, Thor would never have had any chance against him.
Hulk's strength is not limitless because banner is a human after all. There is a cap on a human's mental capacity for rage and insanity. Unless he gets an outside amp to increase his rage, he isn’t approaching Superman.
Nothing any version of the Hulk has ever done on panel makes me think that any of them are above a guy who lifted infinite weight multiple times. I will say that POSSIBLY, Hulk could POTENTIALLY get stronger than Superman after being madder than he's ever been before, and I'm not sure how he could even get madder than he's been.... But by the time that happened he'd be dead anyway if Superman wasn't holding back.
People want to keep bringing up Hulk's fight against PC Superman as some sort of evidence Post Crisis, Pre-reboot Superman (PCPR Superman) would get wrecked. That's fine. Hulk didn't budge a PC Superman who didn't want to hurt him. Now compare that to Superman's fights with SBP, and Kal-L.
Originally posted by PillarofOsiris
Nothing any version of the Hulk has ever done on panel makes me think that any of them are above a guy who lifted infinite weight multiple times. I will say that POSSIBLY, Hulk could POTENTIALLY get stronger than Superman after being madder than he's ever been before, and I'm not sure how he could even get madder than he's been.... But by the time that happened he'd be dead anyway if Superman wasn't holding back.People want to keep bringing up Hulk's fight against PC Superman as some sort of evidence Post Crisis, Pre-reboot Superman (PCPR Superman) would get wrecked. That's fine. Hulk didn't budge a PC Superman who didn't want to hurt him. Now compare that to Superman's fights with SBP, and Kal-L.
Ultraman soloed that same book. Wonder Woman lifted Spectre as well. Black Adam punched through Spectre. Based off of PURE strength fts, Hulk is stronger.
Originally posted by PillarofOsiris
Nothing any version of the Hulk has ever done on panel makes me think that any of them are above a guy who lifted infinite weight multiple times. I will say that POSSIBLY, Hulk could POTENTIALLY get stronger than Superman after being madder than he's ever been before, and I'm not sure how he could even get madder than he's been.... But by the time that happened he'd be dead anyway if Superman wasn't holding back.People want to keep bringing up Hulk's fight against PC Superman as some sort of evidence Post Crisis, Pre-reboot Superman (PCPR Superman) would get wrecked. That's fine. Hulk didn't budge a PC Superman who didn't want to hurt him. Now compare that to Superman's fights with SBP, and Kal-L.
That device was also making hulk unreasonably angry. Now tell me if that's not AMP .
Superman removed it with ease, if he wanted to kill him, he could have created a mixture of xray vision and heat vision to fry hulk's brains. he could have done anything, while an amped hulk was doing everything in his power but couldn't even BUDGE superman. I don't know how that's a good showing for the hulk. I guess a person is considered in the same class if he step in the ring with superman at the same time.
Originally posted by Diesldude
I agree, just look at the ease superman grabbed that electronic device that was making hulk madder than he normally would have been.That device was also making hulk unreasonably angry. Now tell me if that's not [b] AMP
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Superman removed it with ease, if he wanted to kill him, he could have created a mixture of xray vision and heat vision to fry hulk's brains. he could have done anything, while an amped hulk was doing everything in his power but couldn't even BUDGE superman. I don't know how that's a good showing for the hulk. I guess a person is considered in the same class if he step in the ring with superman at the same time. [/B]
Are you using the same comic where Superman got the wind knocked out of him by just ramming Hulk chest. The same comic where Hulk flexed and threw Superman out in space? WTF
The one where he had his hands on his hip and let an amped hulk pound away? Then used his supers peed to grab the device that was was enraging the hulk without the hulk even noticing. Superman wasn't fighting the hulk, at first he underestimated him, but when he got serious, the hulk couldn't do squat. But that's another story. Hulk has potential to reach superman, but i don't think it's humanly possible. Hulk will need special circumstances and an outside amp just to have a chance.
Originally posted by Diesldude
The one where he had his hands on his hip and let an amped hulk pound away? Then used his supers peed to grab the device that was was enraging the hulk without the hulk even noticing. Superman wasn't fighting the hulk, at first he underestimated him, but when he got serious, the hulk couldn't do squat. But that's another story. Hulk has potential to reach superman, but i don't think it's humanly possible. Hulk will need special circumstances and an outside amp just to have a chance.
That was Precrisis Superman and he got Flash koed by that same Hulk.
Originally posted by thanos-prime
Hulk
Sentry
Kurse
Thanos
Despero
Mangog
Citizen steel
SBP
KC superman
Depends on which Hulk
Depends on which Sentry
Kurse NO
Despero Maybe
Mangog NO, he is durable as hell but not even strong enough to ko Thor after hundreds of hits.
Citizen steel, what are his feats?
SBP Yes
KC Superman Maybe
Originally posted by PillarofOsirisThe Omnipotent Beyonder was the one who scanned hulk and said his strength had limitless potential
Nothing any version of the Hulk has ever done on panel makes me think that any of them are above a guy who lifted infinite weight multiple times. I will say that POSSIBLY, Hulk could POTENTIALLY get stronger than Superman after being madder than he's ever been before, and I'm not sure how he could even get madder than he's been.... But by the time that happened he'd be dead anyway if Superman wasn't holding back.People want to keep bringing up Hulk's fight against PC Superman as some sort of evidence Post Crisis, Pre-reboot Superman (PCPR Superman) would get wrecked. That's fine. Hulk didn't budge a PC Superman who didn't want to hurt him. Now compare that to Superman's fights with SBP, and Kal-L.
Originally posted by DiesldudeI dont think hulk actually needs to get "madder and even more madder" to get stronger? I was always under the assumption he only just needed to be mad and his strength will continue to grow indefinitly, getting madder just makes him stronger much faster.
Thor is stronger than Savage Hulk. It’s Hulk’s ability to increase his strength and durability beyond Thor is what allows him to fight at his level. If Savage Hulk started out stronger, Thor would never have had any chance against him.Hulk's strength is not limitless because banner is a human after all. There is a cap on a human's mental capacity for rage and insanity. Unless he gets an outside amp to increase his rage, he isn’t approaching Superman.
Lets take the cross over for example( not cannon but a good show of hulks strength )
He was pounding on superman and not even phasing him and after only two panels of pounding his strength grew geometricly to the point PC SUPERMAN felt he had to block hulks punches.