Forgiveness in Islam, Judaism and Christianity
One in everything
The Old Testament and New Testament
This caused confusion for people
True Gospel
Gospel of our Lord Jesus, peace be upon him
Is not now
Christians themselves
Does not apply the teachings of Christ
The reason is simple
Does not know
What are these teachings properly?
Hence you will find meat and minced words pornography and incest in the Bible
So God says in the Holy Qur'an
(82) You will surely find the most intense of the people in animosity toward the believers [to be] the Jews and those who associate others with Allah; and you will find the nearest of them in affection to the believers those who say, "We are Christians." That is because among them are priests and monks and because they are not arrogant.
(83) And when they hear what has been revealed to the Messenger, you see their eyes overflowing with tears because of what they have recognized of the truth. They say, "Our Lord, we have believed, so register us among the witnesses.
Originally posted by eninnSo God says in the Holy Qur'an
(82) You will surely find the most intense of the people in animosity toward the believers [to be] the Jews and those who associate others with Allah; and you will find the nearest of them in affection to the believers those who say, "We are Christians." That is because among them are priests and monks and because they are not arrogant.
(83) And when they hear what has been revealed to the Messenger, you see their eyes overflowing with tears because of what they have recognized of the truth. They say, "Our Lord, we have believed, so register us among the witnesses.
So in sort, the Jews are evil and can't be converted to Islam; you might have some luck converting Christians.
Stop spamming eninn! Here's one back at you.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJCPkewGock&feature=player_embedded#!
Religion is just silly. If you can't find some meaning in your own life without defining it around something written by an old guy in a cave centuries ago then no amount of worship, lighting candles, chanting, or singing shall help you.
I read the Bible and Qu'ran as literature--hackneyed literature with simplistic stories--but literature.
Originally posted by Robtard
LoL, go back and read instead of asking me questions I answered already. It's equally wrong, imo, as I have repeatedly said. Why you're so stuck on "barbaric" or not is beyond me.
There is a difference between, "I disagree with it" and "it's a barbaric practice". The second is much more powerfully negative than the first. It sounded to me like you considered circumcision more negative than the other because you were hesitant to call the eye example "barbaric". You just said, "I think it's intrusive".
Originally posted by Robtard
How would eye/hair color have a bigger impact than circumcision? Circumcision has conceivably the higher risk of issues (infection,user error) until the genetic-changing comes into play as some norm.
Because eye and hair color are parts of the body that will be seen regularly by everyone else the child meets in life. There is even some categorization when it comes to hair or eye color sometimes. Circumcision does pretty much nothing.
Originally posted by Robtard
So that's it? There's some possibility that in can help with hygiene. The lengths people go to protect some dogma that's been ground into their heads by society.
Actually, as I stated before, my religion does not demand circumcision at all. I don't care if you get circumcised or not. I had a problem with calling the act barbaric and labeling it as mutilating a child. It's a harmless medical procedure, and those who get it done are not barbaric, they are just raising their child differently than you would.
Originally posted by Robtard
So tell me, what's the difference if a parent(s) wants to surgically remove their child's little toe? There are few negatives just like circumcision(possibly slight imbalance, but people who have lost toes get along fine) and in theory, if could potentially help with keeping one's feet clean, an area notorious with having bacteria.
Lol. Being more wobbly going through life is much worse than anything circumcision would do. And I've never heard of the little toe having problems with bacteria before.
Originally posted by TacDavey
There is a difference between, "I disagree with it" and "it's a barbaric practice". The second is much more powerfully negative than the first. It sounded to me like you considered circumcision more negative than the other because you were hesitant to call the eye example "barbaric". You just said, "I think it's intrusive".Because eye and hair color are parts of the body that will be seen regularly by everyone else the child meets in life. There is even some categorization when it comes to hair or eye color sometimes. Circumcision does pretty much nothing.
Actually, as I stated before, my religion does not demand circumcision at all. I don't care if you get circumcised or not. I had a problem with calling the act barbaric and labeling it as mutilating a child. It's a harmless medical procedure, and those who get it done are not barbaric, they are just raising their child differently than you would.
Lol. Being more wobbly going through life is much worse than anything circumcision would do. And I've never heard of the little toe having problems with bacteria before.
Because one is literally whacking a piece of the body off for little more than aesthetic reasons. I already said I'm not for it and see it negatively as well. Circles and circles.
Except mutilate the penis, by definition, it's genital mutilation. ": to cut up or alter radically so as to make imperfect." Again, the foreskin is there for a reason.
Because the whacking of body parts off another person for the "it looks prettier" is barbaric. You're likely defending because it's been ingrained into you that it's fine by Western standards. There is no valid reason for circumcisions, other than the religious/cultural ones ie "God demands it", "It's a right of passage in outr tribe" etc.
LoL, adult's who lose toes adapt just fine, a child learning to walk this way since infancy would adapt as well, better likely. You never heard of athlete' foot? It's a common condition. Feet get dirty, more-so than a penis. A bit less of surface area on the foot (like on the penis), could mean less chance of getting bacteria. By your whacked standards, it'd therefore be fine for a parent to do so.
When was the last time you've heard someone having a condition because they weren't circumcised? About 80% of [men] the world are not circumcised, if there was some issue with being uncut, you'd think it'd be well known.
Originally posted by DigiDon't worry about it. Guess it sounded more serious than I intended it to be. Happens to me all the time and usually I fix that by adding a number of ridiculous smilies.
Ok, sure, I get that. And I don't mean to come down too hard. It's just, even on the internet, there's such a thing as timing, context, and delivery. Your first post comes across as kinda creepy and messed up, is all. If you intended it solely as a joke, sorry to dredge it up. I just physically grimaced when I read it. Maybe it's just the thread topic, and lil's serious, though sarcastic, evisceration of it, that a flippant joke about rape seemed out of place.
I don't see why it needs to be explained from an "Islamic" perspective.
All Religions have always encouraged modesty in dress from men and women.
Nuns cover their hair. Many Religous Jewish women also cover their hair. We don't see any images of Mary (pbuh) wearing short skirts or showing her flesh. And you won't catch Priests, Rabbi's or Imams dressed in shorts and tight T-shirts.
As for women having just as powerful a sex drive as men, yes that's true. But surely you all see men get much more excited over looks, and just a bit of flesh showing.
A girl walking in a mini-skirt (especially at night) will most likely get horned at a few times, hit on multiple times, and perhaps even harassed.
But somehow I doubt if I walk outside in shorts that the same thing will happen to me..
Islam is a religion of mercy and justice and equality comprehensive concept (ihsan)
Depending on the conditions and requirements of people
Configuration and physical and mental
God says in the Holy Qur'an
286. Allah burdens not a person beyond his scope. He gets reward for that (good) which he has earned, and he is punished for that (evil) which he has earned. "Our Lord! Punish us not if we forget or fall into error, our Lord! Lay not on us a burden like that which You did lay on those before us (Jews and Christians); our Lord! Put not on us a burden greater than we have strength to bear. Pardon us and grant us Forgiveness. Have mercy on us. You are our Maula (Patron, Suppor-ter and Protector, etc.) and give us victory over the disbelieving people. "
90. Verily, Allah enjoins Al-Adl (ie justice and worshipping none but Allah Alone - Islamic Monotheism) and Al-Ihsan [ie to be patient in performing your duties to Allah, totally for Allah's sake and in accordance with the Sunnah (legal ways) of the Prophet in a perfect manner], and giving (help) to kith and kin (ie all that Allah has ordered you to give them eg, wealth, visiting, looking after them, or any other kind of help, etc.): and forbids Al-Fahsha '(ie all evil deeds, eg illegal sexual acts, disobedience of parents, polytheism, to tell lies , to give false witness, to kill a life without right, etc.), and Al-Munkar (ie all that is prohibited by Islamic law: polytheism of every kind, disbelief and every kind of evil deeds, etc.), and Al -Baghy (ie all kinds of oppression), He admonishes you, that you may take heed.
The correct application of the principles of Islam
Is original to the success of community
You're trying to compared a man who lived +1400 years ago to the ideals and today's society. Compared him to those he lived around. Compare Muhammed to the thoughts and teaching of 650 AD. Compared him to the ideas and thoughts that people had about life / women / war / law / hygiene / education / economics. You'll see and agree that Muhammed was ahead of his time
Even in our time until the end of the world
Yes, my dear brother
But
To know the truth inside the hearts
No distinction between Jew or Christian or any religion
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Your own words about the veil in Judaism, Christianity and Islam
Correct
The three religions from one source
God
The same legislation
Hijab is an obligation and a necessity for every Muslim woman
In order to protect them from any harm or assault
Veiled women that encourages you to respect them
Women dressed in scandalous
Extremists
Encourages you to abuse her
Regardless of the laws
yes
The man also
Must be inside
Honor, integrity
And high morals
But
Women are the other half to the man
For adornment and should not be blatant
Her clothes and entice men gross
Because the man
Humans is in the first place
He has feelings and sensations
We can not deny
Veil
Prevents bad ideas
Western society
Full of adultery, betrayal, sexual harassment and illegitimate children and family disintegration
إن نساء العجم يكشفن صدورهن ورءوسهن قال أصرف بصرك عنهن )) رواه الإمام البخاري
Originally posted by eninn
Yes, my dear brother
But
To know the truth inside the hearts
No distinction between Jew or Christian or any religion...
That is not true. Buddhism believes in equal rights for women. That and many other things, make Buddhism superior to Islam. But Islam is still young, one day it will grow up. 😉
Originally posted by Robtard
Because one is literally whacking a piece of the body off for little more than aesthetic reasons. I already said I'm not for it and see it negatively as well. Circles and circles.
It isn't simply aesthetic reasons. The wikipedia page says:
"Simmons et al. report that the foreskin's presence "frequently predisposes to medical problems, including balanitis, phimosis, venereal disease and penile cancer", and additionally state that "because we now are able to effectively treat foreskin related maladies, some societies are shifting toward foreskin preservation.""
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreskin (Beware clicking this link, as there are penis pictures that follow.)
It doesn't happen all the time, and we can treat it, so it isn't as necessary as it may have been in the past, but there ARE benefits to it with basically no negative repercussions.
Originally posted by Robtard
Except mutilate the penis, by definition, it's genital mutilation. ": to cut up or alter radically so as to make imperfect." Again, the foreskin is there for a reason.
What reason is that? It helps increase sexual stimulation? Taken from the same wiki page as above:
"The effects of circumcision on sexual sensation however are not clear, with reports of both enhanced and diminished sexual pleasure following the procedure in adults and little awareness of advantage or disadvantage in those circumcised in infancy."
It goes on to say:
"[a]necdotally, some have claimed that the foreskin is important for normal sexual activity and improves sexual sensitivity. Objective published studies over the past decade have shown no substantial difference in sexual function between circumcised and uncircumcised men."
The other option presented was protection with antibacterial enzymes, but even that was challenged:
"no controlled scientific data are available regarding differing immune function in a penis with or without a foreskin."
The World Health Organization even said it wasn't completely clear what the role of the foreskin is, and that it is a matter of debate.
Whatever the foreskin is suppose to do, it seems it can do it just fine with or without it. So I wouldn't say it is altering it in a way to make it imperfect.
Originally posted by Robtard
Because the whacking of body parts off another person for the "it looks prettier" is barbaric. You're likely defending because it's been ingrained into you that it's fine by Western standards. There is no valid reason for circumcisions, other than the religious/cultural ones ie "God demands it", "It's a right of passage in outr tribe" etc.
Once again, it is not done simply because it "looks prettier".
Originally posted by Robtard
LoL, adult's who lose toes adapt just fine, a child learning to walk this way since infancy would adapt as well, better likely. You never heard of athlete' foot? It's a common condition. Feet get dirty, more-so than a penis. A bit less of surface area on the foot (like on the penis), could mean less chance of getting bacteria. By your whacked standards, it'd therefore be fine for a parent to do so.
That's the thing, though. They would have to adapt. They would have go out of their way to compensate for the negative repercussions of having the toe removed. Circumcision doesn't require any adaptation at all. The athlete's foot example is not even close to being viable. You bring me any scientific or medical study that shows that removing the little toe from a child will decrease his or her risk of athletes foot later in life and you might have something, though even then, it still wouldn't be the same since, again, removing the toe carries negative consequences where as circumcision does not.
Originally posted by Robtard
When was the last time you've heard someone having a condition because they weren't circumcised? About 80% of [men] the world are not circumcised, if there was some issue with being uncut, you'd think it'd be well known.
According to the article before, there CAN be complications but they can be treated. I'm not here saying that not getting circumcised is the wrong choice, and that you will be in and out of the hospital all the time if you don't get it done. I'm simply rejecting the idea that circumcision is barbaric. I'm not defending circumcision as something that everyone, or even most people, should do.
Originally posted by TacDavey
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreskin (Beware clicking this link, as there are penis pictures that follow.)
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