Eninn's Islam Thread

Do you try to not be understandable?

Originally posted by eninn
Look
I see you want to attack Islam
Do not want to understand
But
I'll explain to all and is not for you

Your wrong

Evidence is clear for all
See with me

America, for example,

Find lesbianism - homosexuality - - gay marriage

For this is a reality in the community
No one can deny it

And this also happened in the time of Prophet Lut peace be upon him

I hope that everyone moves away from distractions and return to the teachings of God and the prophets and messengers

I do not want to attack Islam. None of this (anything on this forum) is Islam.

I do understand that you are not just talking to me. However, I am probably the most receptive on this forum.

What am I wrong about?

Distractions[sic]? I am not distracted by gay marriage. I honestly don't care. It doesn’t matter to me how people love each other.

I do not believe in man-made gods.

Originally posted by Robtard
Yet in practice, woman in Islamic countries often get the short end of the stick compared to the men/their husbands because of Islamic law.

Don't confuse people with facts. 😉

Originally posted by Robtard
Yet in practice, woman in Islamic countries often get the short end of the stick compared to the men/their husbands because of Islamic law.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Don't confuse people with facts. 😉

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
OK, lets say your right. Was Lot an idiot or was the homosexual mod a heterosexual mod instead?

And we do not know that which individuals were given the option of marriage by Prophet Lot (PBUH) from the mob.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
People can be bisexual too.

And we do not know that which individuals were given the option of marriage by Prophet Lot (PBUH) from the mob.

It's just a story.

However, I would not give my daughter to a mod, would you?

Man can beat a woman if she refuses to have sex with him -

Qur'an 4:34
"Men are the maintainers of women because Allah has made some of them to excel others and because they spend out of their property; the good women are therefore obedient, guarding the unseen as Allah has guarded; and (as to) those on whose part you fear desertion, admonish them, and leave them alone in the sleeping-places and beat them; then if they obey you, do not seek a way against them; surely Allah is High, Great."

Men can marry prepubescent girls -

Qur'an 65:4-
"Such of your women as have passed the age of monthly courses, for them the prescribed period, if ye have any doubts, is three months, and for those who have no courses (it is the same): for those who carry (life within their wombs), their period is until they deliver their burdens: and for those who fear Allah, He will make their path easy."

Testemony of a woman is worth half of a man -

Qur'an 2:282
"O you who believe! when you deal with each other in contracting a debt for a fixed time, then write it down; and let a scribe write it down between you with fairness; and the scribe should not refuse to write as Allah has taught him, so he should write; and let him who owes the debt dictate, and he should be careful of (his duty to) Allah, his Lord, and not diminish anything from it; but if he who owes the debt is unsound in understanding, or weak, or (if) he is not able to dictate himself, let his guardian dictate with fairness; and call in to witness from among your men two witnesses; but if there are not two men, then one man and two women from among those whom you choose to be witnesses, so that if one of the two errs, the second of the two may remind the other; and the witnesses should not refuse when they are summoned; and be not averse to writing it (whether it is) small or large, with the time of its falling due; this is more equitable in the sight of Allah and assures greater accuracy in testimony, and the nearest (way) that you may not entertain doubts (afterwards), except when it is ready merchandise which you give and take among yourselves from hand to hand, then there is no blame on you in not writing it down; and have witnesses when you barter with one another, and let no harm be done to the scribe or to the witness; and if you do (it) then surely it will be a transgression in you, and be careful of (your duty) to Allah, Allah teaches you, and Allah knows all things."

Then there are inheritance issues...

Shall I quote the Hadiths?

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
Shall I quote the Hadiths?

I love it when your quote Hadiths. Hadith all over my face!

Peace be upon you
Islam is a religion of men and women
Have the same rights and duties
Islam raised women's dignity and rights recalled
In ignorance
Women do not inherit
Woman to graduate from her home after the death of her husband for a year
Women hit Beating women have certain conditions
Condescension and arrogance of the husband and mistreatment
Women hit by tooth brushing your teeth

This is the mercy of God
Because tooth brushing is a small piece and very light wood
In the sense that women will not suffer at all
But
In other religions
I see women in a degrading tormented
Such as
Beatings with whips and iron tools and the use of fire
- More than a man's woman has conditions
Financial capacity, health, justice, equality between spouses in money, love and good treatment

- More than a man's woman, the basic reason
Solve the problems of society on the phenomenon of spinsterhood

Islam respect women
And Muslim women
Comes first
In the life of a Muslim man
Unlike women in the West
Is a cheap commodity
Recognition
Women of the West

- Says Glenda Jackson carrier Oscars awarded by the Queen of Britain and the medal of the highest state medals, which was awarded the British Academy Award, Festival Montreal World says: (The instinct made man is the most powerful and dominant building on to his reasons for the force to make it in the first place, including summed up by the power of God move in life, and extract its resources, it is self-serve when the man that qualify automatically to face the burdens of life, development, and sustained in the areas of life).
B - the U.S. women's leader (Fleche Hlavi) called on women to the need for attention to the husband and children before the job of interest, and must be the husband is the head of the family and the commander of rudderless.
C - In the recent book about the life of English writer famous (Agatha Christie) it is stated as saying: (The women of modern joint-stock; because their position in society is getting worse day by day; we women act act a fool; because we have made the effort over the years; for the right to work and equality in working with men.
And men are not stupid; Hjona has it that advertisers do not mind at all that the working wife and the husband's income has doubled.
It is sad to find that after we proved we women fairer sex weak that we get back in the day to equate effort and sweat, which was awarded to men and alone).
D - says an American psychologist: (Any woman who said: I am sure myself, and went out without censor or kill herself it Haseeb and chastity).

Thank you for listening

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eninn, it sounds like you are making excuses. But it is hard to tell because your posts are very strangely written. It maybe a language problem.

So, by treating a women as an equal, the west is doing something wrong? I think you are full of sh*t on this point.

http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,185647,00.html

What Women rights in Islam I've a lot that prove this is wrong

Shall I start

in the Sura of An-Nisaa (no.4 in the Qur'an)

Men are in charge of women, because Allah hath men the one of them to excel the other, and because they spend of their property (for the support of women). So good women are the obedient, guarding in secret that which Allah hath guarded. As for those from whom ye fear rebellion, admonish them and banish them to beds apart, and scourge them. Then if they obey you, seek not a way against them. Lo! Allah is ever High Exalted, Great. (34)

and Tabari Said:

Say in the interpretation of the verse: {} and beat them means that the bulk of praise: admonish them guys in Nchoizen, the show return to what you need when Vshidohn Thaqa and in their homes, and beat them to Aabn due to them from obedience to God in need of your rights to them. He said the people of interpretation: a recipe that has permitted the beating of God defiantly disobedient husband to beat her severely beating is
And many said Ben

The words and beat them that is, if not Ertdan Bmoazp or abandonment as your that Tdharboehn beating is severe, as is proven in Saheeh Muslim from Jabir from the Prophet peace be upon him, he said in the Farewell Pilgrimage, "and fear of God in women, they do you have Awan you and they should not Iotin Frckm anyone whom you dislike the but in a manner is not severely, and their livelihood and reasonable manner

Qur'an Gives the Man the right to hit his wife

Move on to another point

leave in their beds.

Meaning they do not have sex with them

Imagine that this is the punishment
Imagine thinking that all the God of Islam - and therefore Muhammad is the Messenger of Islam - the position at one point in the marital relationship
And sexual intercourse are
sexual practice
As if the marriage is the only sexual relationship

Add to that
Only knows the God of Islam is that the abandonment of women is also a punishment for a man who will be deprived of sexual pleasure?
Adopted or is it that it is permissible to marry the right and queens and concubines Old women Saatihn wages?

Add to that the men were the protectors and maintainers of women
What maintainers? And because they spend of their wealth
Thinking purely physical
Enslavement

Small question here

If you are a woman of that spend their money on the man Vtkon stewardship?
Is the value of men and women, on the strength of the other is determined by the ability to spend?

But think of the God of Islam is in money and sex?

this is only Part 1

Going back to the Epic of Gilgamesh there's a recurring trend of mistrust of women and female sexuality in the Near East that rears its head up in both Bibles and in the Qu'ran.

Lil's hard knowledge and that Time article shakya posted are pretty damning. Nobody gives a **** about esoteric interpretations if, in reality, it's a society with institutionalized female repression. I was unaware of a lot of it, so thanks for the info guys.

Also, Revo, your post is barely coherent. And I still think eninn may just be a troll, but if he is, he's wasting his own time more than anyone's, so srug

No different than the line from the US Declaration of Independence:

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness.", while slavery was still around. "Truths" not used in practice are pointless and thereby rendered to shit.

Originally posted by Robtard
No different than the line from the US Declaration of Independence:

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness.", while slavery was still around. "Truths" not used in practice are pointless and thereby rendered to shit.

It all depends on the meaning of the word "men".

The big difference is that we had a big war over the matter, and Islam has not over the rights of women.

Originally posted by eninn
yes sister

but
God says in the Holy Qur'an

(86) And when you are greeted with a greeting, greet [in return] with one better than it or [at least] return it [in a like manner]. Indeed, All h is ever, over all things, an Accountant.

God doesn't say anything in any book.

Circumcision is basically a barbaric practice. The "it's healthier" is complete bullshit. Might as well remove your female infants inner labia for the same reasons. You teach your child to wash his hands, face and ass. Teach him to wash his genitals just the same. No issues. Do it to your male child if you so wish, as the negatives are few. But you're not improving anything.

From a religious point of view, I find it absurd as well, having a foreskin would be how God made you, so now you're altering your infant for improvement? Somehow you succeeded where God failed? LoL.

Digi I'm really because I can't stand lies I'm a former Muslim and I know why I left it

Originally posted by Robtard
Circumcision is basically a barbaric practice. The "it's healthier" is complete bullshit. Might as well remove your female infants inner labia for the same reasons. You teach your child to wash his hands, face and ass. Teach him to wash his genitals just the same. No issues. Do it to your male child if you so wish, as the negatives are few. But you're not improving anything.

From a religious point of view, I find it absurd as well, having a foreskin would be how God made you, so now you're altering your infant for improvement? Somehow you succeeded where God failed? LoL.

We all want to be Jews, but we don't want the religion. 😉