Eninn's Islam Thread

Started by TacDavey24 pages
Originally posted by Robtard
You're saying "they're in the ball park", when they're not even the same sport. Wisdom-teeth removal is mostly reactive, they cause a problem; they're removed. In the cases that it's done before a problem occurs, it's due to the dentist deducing (usually via x-ray) that a problem will likely arise in the future. One is a (many a time) needed procedure. One isn't except in very rare occasions.

So one is necessary to stay healthy and the other is merely helpful, like I said. Considering they are the same in the other key points, I would say that's in the same ball park.

Originally posted by Robtard
Barbaric as in "outdated", obviously no. I do see it as an invasion of a person though. ie What if that person at adulthood preferred to have their natural eye-color over the one their parent(s) picked for them. This would be little more than unneeded cosmetic surgery done against a person's will, as circumcision is.

Then they are the same. So why is circumcision barbaric but this example is not? Unless you have only meant barbaric as in "outdated" this whole time, in which case this entire conversation has been a massive misunderstanding.

peace be upon you

All your words are incorrect

Abu Hurairah (May Allah be pleased with him) reported: Messenger of Allah (PBUH) said, "The believers who show the most perfect Faith are those who have the best behaviour, and the best of you are those who are the best to their wives ". [At-Tirmidhi].

-- Women take care of children and look after the affairs of the house and her husband in the first place
In her spare time doing useful work for it or to others

- The husband helps his wife in the house and work outside the home
This from the actions of the Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him, with his wife
Sewing clothes and help in the work of the house
So the Muslim must apply the correct Sauna
will feel happiness

1 - Holy Qur'an and the Hadith is for all time and place
Without shortages or increased
God says in the Holy Qur'an
(3) This day those who disbelieve have despaired of [defeating] your religion; so fear them not, but fear Me. This day I have perfected for you your religion and completed My favor upon you and have approved for you Islam as religion.

2 - polygamy is essential today
You see the ongoing war in Palestine, Iraq, Afghanistan, Chechnya, Syria
We can not ignore
Orphans and widows there

3 - polygamy solution to the problem of infertility
Modern methods do not work in every case
So I live with a close community
I see many cases a result of the successful marriage of a second wife

4 - Men's sexual desires
You see in recent years
Opening up the world between countries, the Internet and stirring instincts constantly in the media

So instead of the direction of the Adultery on a daily basis such as the West
There is a solution in Islam, a legal marriage between them, provided of Justice
Either two or three or four

--Women hit Beating women have certain conditions
Condescension and arrogance of the husband and mistreatment
Women hit by tooth brushing your teeth

This is the mercy of God
Because tooth brushing is a small piece and very light wood
In the sense that women will not suffer at all
But
In other religions
I see women in a degrading tormented
Such as
Beatings with whips and iron tools and the use of fire

Women hit comes in the final stage completely

- More than a man's woman has conditions
Financial capacity, health, justice, equality between spouses in money, love and good treatment

- More than a man's woman, the basic reason
Solve the problems of society on the phenomenon of spinsterhood

Iyas bin `Abdullah (May Allah be pleased with him) reported: Messenger of Allah (PBUH) said," Do not beat Allahs bondwomen. "When` Umar (May Allah be pleased with him) came to Messenger of Allah (PBUH) and complained saying: "The women have become very daring towards their husbands," He (PBUH) gave permission to beat them. Then many women went to the family of the Messenger of Allah (wives) complaining of their husbands, and he (the Prophet (PBUH)) said, "Many women have gone round Muhammads family complaining of their husbands. Those who do so, that is, those who take to beating their wives, are not the best among you ". [Abu Dawud].

Commentary:
This Hadith tells us that those who take to beating their wives are not perfect people. The decency of manners warrants that one must refrain from beating, as is evident from the conduct of the Prophet (PBUH) who neither resorted to beating with his own hand any of his wives nor slaves nor any other. He would avenge those who transgressed the limits of Allah.

-the great Islam gave the woman her honorable value, all the Laws of in the world will not reach this high level

prophet Mohammad said:

1 - Women are the twin halves of men.
2 - The world and all things in it are valuable; but the most valuable thing in the world is a virtuous woman.
3 - The best women are the virtuous; they are the most affectionate to infants, and the most careful of their husband's property.
4 - When a woman performeth the five times of prayer, and fasteth the month of Ramadan, and is chaste, and is not disobedient to her husband, then tell her to enter Paradise by whichever door she liketh.
5 - Verily a great number of women are assembled near my family, complaining of their hubands; and those men who ill-treat their wives do not behave well. He is not of my way who teacheth a woman to stray.
6 - Asma, daughter of Yazid, said, "Victuals were brought to Muhammad, and he put them before some of us women who were present, and said, 'Eat ye.' But notwithstanding we were hungry we said, 'We have no inclination.' Muhammad said, 'O woman! Do not mix hunger with lies.' "
7 - Whoever doeth good to girls, it will be a curtain to him from hell-fire.
8 - Whoever befriendeth two girls till they come of age, will be in the next world along with me, like my two fingers joining each other.
9 - Whoever befriendeth three daughters, or three sisters, and teacheth them manners, and is affectionate to them, till they come of age, may God apportion Paradise for him.
10 - Whoever hath a daughter, and doth not bury her alive or scold her, or prefer his male children to her, may God bring him into Paradise.
11 - Shall I not point out to you the best of virtues? It is your doing good to your daughter when she is returned to you having been divorced by her husband.
12 - God enjoins you to treat women well, for they are your mothers, daughters, aunts.
13 - Do not prevent your women from coming to the mosque.
14 - The believers who show the most perfect faith are those who have the best disposition and the best of you are those who are best to their wives

Also the holy Quran announced her rights:

[And women shall have rights similar to the rights against them, according to what is equitable;]
[On the contrary live with them on a footing of kindness and equity]
[But bestow on them (a suitable gift), the wealthy according to his means, and the poor according to his means; a gift of a reasonable amount is due from those who wish to do the right thing. ]
[Let the women live (in 'iddat,) in the same style as ye live, according to your means: annoy them not, so as to restrict them]
[From what is left by parents and those nearest related there is a share for men and a share for women, whether the property be small or large, a determinate share]
[And to women what they earn:]
[Permitted to you, on the night of the fasts, is the approach to your wives. They are your garments and ye are their garments]
[O ye who believe! ye are forbidden to inherit women against their will. Nor should ye treat them with harshness, that ye may take away part of the dower ye have given them,]
[A divorce is only permissible twice: after that, the parties should either hold together on equitable terms, or separate with kindness. It is not lawful for you, (men), to take back any of your gifts (from your wives),]

Anyway

- You see the children of illegal
And family disintegration - Treason

All this is not in Islam and the correct application
But in the West

the woman in the western world is only commodity in the hands of men ...

--Do not look at the extremists and bad examples in the community

The original Holy Qur'an and the Hadith

Please
Do not talk on your own

First
Must study Islam

God says in the Holy Qur'an
(7) And We sent not before you, [O Muhammad], except men to whom We revealed [the message], so ask the people of the message if you do not know.

peace be upon you

Circumcision
Is necessary for health in the first place
See here and listen well

أحمد ديدات - القرآن والكمبيوتر - مترجم - YouTube

The vast majority of women
God created them to an appropriate body
Circumcision does not need to
But
Very few women need it

allah says

(222), Indeed, Allah loves those who are constantly repentant and loves those who purify themselves. "
The issue here
That there are some women and girls

They have a large femalecore and slightly high

In that case requires circumcision
By a very small

Circumcision is not a basis for girls

But very few cases that require

This is a result of medical examination

Not affected by the girl physically and psychologically

Originally posted by eninn
...The vast majority of women
God created them to an appropriate body
Circumcision does not need to
But
Very few women need it...

Who decides for those few women?

Originally posted by TacDavey
I don't think so. As I said before, I'm not fully up on all the details concerning female circumcision, but isn't it much more harmful to the girl than male circumcision?

generally because it is done in substandard conditions without sterile medical tools.

In a proper hospital it should leave no more real long term issues than male circumcision...

hold on... are you suggesting that because it might not present imminent danger to the child that either type of circumcision is not mutilating the kids genitals?

mmmmmmm dude the hadiths are weak

the rest of your talking are prove-less

but where are you from??

We can barely understand what he is talking about. I tried to ask for clarity, but I didn't understand his reply. However, I had the funny feeling that he was insulting me, but I couldn't be sure.

Originally posted by eninn
peace be upon you

All your words are incorrect

This made me laugh. That is some brutal, if oblivious, ownage there.

Originally posted by Digi
This made me laugh. That is some brutal, if oblivious, ownage there.

That is the only part I understood. 🙁

Originally posted by TheBigManRevo
Digi I'm really because I can't stand lies I'm a former Muslim and I know why I left it

Ahlan, ahlan, ya murtad!!! 😍

Welcome fellow kafir, free from Allah and Mo! 😊

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
Ahlan, ahlan, ya murtad!!! 😍

Welcome fellow kafir, free from Allah and Mo! 😊

Listen, if I become a kafir, will you show me your anus?

Originally posted by Robtard
Listen, if I become a kafir, will you show me your anus?

You already are a kafir. How is that anus looking?

Originally posted by Robtard
Listen, if I become a kafir, will you show me your anus?

Lil B, stop using your satanic wiles to drive Robtard to sexual frenzy. Cover up, damn it!

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
Ahlan, ahlan, ya murtad!!! 😍

Welcome fellow kafir, free from Allah and Mo! 😊

Murtad and Proud I like being kafir I like being free from lies

I am not a kafir, I don't think.

There's a half-assed pun with me being Mormon and Mu'min, I think. WEEEE!

Originally posted by lil bitchiness

Clearly the spawn of Satan you evil temptress!

Originally posted by Robtard
Clearly the spawn of Satan you evil temptress!

I think we are going to have to have a conversation about techniques.

Oh, don't worry, I got the techniques down.

Originally posted by Robtard
Oh, don't worry, I got the techniques down.

I don't think smacking her in the face when she protests is a "technique".