Originally posted by SquallX
Go and read what Extant with an incomplete Worlogog was able to do, then you'll realize how badly team Marvel loses.
I know what he did with the Worlogog+Mobius Chair .
And my opinion still remains unchanged .
Edit : IIRC , the Worlogog is now in Metron's possession , and he no longer trusts Hourman with it . If we are using the latest incarnations of the characters , then the Worlogog can't be presumed to be part of Hourman's standard gear here .
Originally posted by Galan007
^ Imo, team 1 has better feats (assuming Hourman has the 'gog here.)
Last I heard , Metron had removed the Worlogog from Hourman , because he no longer trusted him with it .
But still , even if he has the 'Gog , what makes you think it can overwhelm a team of a universal , an above-Abstract and an omniversal reality warper ?
Originally posted by TheGodKillerMJJ's omniversal potential is irrelevant. His top feat was warping a universe--and he was also powerless without reality to warp (a 'weakness' none of the DC team share)--so that's how I judge him.
Last I heard , Metron had removed the Worlogog from Hourman , because he no longer trusted him with it .But still , even if he has the 'Gog , what makes you think it can overwhelm a team of a universal , an above-Abstract and an omniversal reality warper ?
Anyway, Extant used an incomplete Worlogog to created his own universe--and everything in it--from scratch. Feat-wise, that is more than enough to contend with anyone on team 2.
Originally posted by Galan007
MJJ's omniversal potential is irrelevant. His top feat was warping a universe--and he was also powerless without reality to warp (a 'weakness' none of the DC team share)--so that's how I judge him.Anyway, Extant used an incomplete Worlogog to created his own universe--and everything in it--from scratch. Feat-wise, that is more than enough to contend with anyone on team 2.
MJJ also overcame Matrix-Merlyn , who was an omniversal power . What makes you think that any of the team would be able to capitalize on his UnSpace weakness , the way Fury did ?
Also , Extant used the incomplete Worlogog in conjunction with the Mobius Chair . Not saying that he couldn't have done it without that , just that its what the on-panel evidence shows us .
Originally posted by TheGodKillerOmniversal, lol. Anyway a user of the 'gog gains literal omniscience. He would absolutely know about the unspace thing.
MJJ also overcame Matrix-Merlyn , who was an omniversal power . What makes you think that any of the team would be able to capitalize on his UnSpace weakness , the way Fury did ?Also , Extant used the incomplete Worlogog in conjunction with the Mobius Chair . Not saying that he couldn't have done it without that , just that its what the on-panel evidence shows us .
Nope, extant only used the chair to gather the pieces of the 'gog that hourman had previously scattered across the multiverse. The construction of a universe was accomplished with the 'gog alone.
Originally posted by Galan007
Omniversal, lol. Anyway a user of the 'gog gains literal omniscience. He would absolutely know about the unspace thing.Nope, extant only used the chair to gather the pieces of the 'gog that hourman had previously scattered across the multiverse. The construction of a universe was accomplished with the 'gog alone.
Matrix-Merlyn was an omniversal power .
I am not saying that team 1 won't know his weakness , I am saying how will they capitalize on it the way Fury did ?
That is precisely what I mean by "using in conjunction" . It seems that you also didn't read the very next sentence .
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Originally posted by Galan007Omniversal, lol.
Anyway a user of the 'gog gains literal omniscience.
Originally posted by Galan007He would absolutely know about the unspace thing.
Fury had a plot on his side (immune to Jaspers' warp)
plus durability > Eternity/Infinity ...
plus the inherit power to adapt and figure the win.
Since "literal omniscience" works for DC in this neutral zone,
MJJ's overwhelming nothing stop it Reality Warp is just as viable.
Therefore, he solos the field.
Originally posted by TheGodKillerby having the power to do so?
Matrix-Merlyn was an omniversal power .
I am not saying that team 1 won't know his weakness , I am saying how will they capitalize on it the way Fury did ?That is precisely what I mean by "using in conjunction" . It seems that you also didn't read the very next sentence .
This leads me to believe that you may not know what you're talking about. The chair was not used to help construct the universe. It literally had nothing to do with it.