Originally posted by ODG
I'm not saying you're stupid.You are. I mean, I just wouldn't say it.
Let me know when the concept of "black holes = wormholes to other points in space" enters your mind. Apparently, reading the comic itself didn't impress that upon you. Then again, you may just have never actually read the comic. Maybe you just thought Superman happened to be on the other side of the universe on a vacation, said location having nothing to do with a black hole. Forgetting of course that I was the one who pointed out it was also durability/stamina feat in the first place. Nobody even remembered he went through black holes on the return trip until I pointed it out.
Dis irony, right here.
So what you are saying is I am stupid even though 4 fingers point back to you being the stupid one and ignoring writer facts and stated fact in comic and the fact everyone here agrees with writer and what the comic states.
Gotcha.
Concession accepted.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Anyway, other than some whining by ODG which is expected, everybody agrees that superman crossed the universe in sixty days?Good.
Hell with what you're saying he probably could have cut the time it took for him to get home if he didn't stop and play around a couple black holes for fun. Amirite?
Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Obviously not everybody. ODG actually has a valid point. Wouldn't it be stupid for him to enter black holes if he didn't need to use them to get home?Hell with what you're saying he probably could have cut the time it took for him to get home if he didn't stop and play around a couple black holes for fun. Amirite?
Neither the comic or Pak support this conclusion.
Originally posted by abhilegendEven if that were the case "my legendary hatred" isn't balanced out by your fanaticism in any way; you heavily outweigh any Superman "hate" by me by a long shot. You literally cannot shut up about the character to the point that from my perspective the effort you put into it reaches the equivalence of a job working at a off-shore oil rig where you don't see your family for months. Isn't it tiresome? It's tiresome to read let me tell you.
OK. Your superman hate is legendary though. So?
Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Please explain.
Pak explicitly states that superman flew from the end of the universe in 2 months with no mention of using blackholes. Superman ALSO states he flew in endless space for 60 days non-stop.
The only mention of blackholes was when clark was boasting to bruce; we dont know the complete context of how, when and why superman flew through a couple black holes; but we know he did it to look impressive judging by bruces reaction.
Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Obviously not everybody. ODG actually has a valid point. Wouldn't it be stupid for him to enter black holes if he didn't need to use them to get home?Hell with what you're saying he probably could have cut the time it took for him to get home if he didn't stop and play around a couple black holes for fun. Amirite?
And why is the "specifically created black hole" at the end of Doomed the norm all of a sudden? It was created specifically to send Superman and Brainiac away from earth. No reason to think the other black holes Superman encountered worked as a wormhole. That's a total unsubstantiated theory which is contradicted by both Superman and the writer repeatedly.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Read the scans again. It was done to cure the doomsday infection.And why is the "specifically created black hole" at the end of Doomed the norm all of a sudden? It was created specifically to send Superman and Brainiac away from earth. No reason to think the other black holes Superman encountered worked as a wormhole. That's a total unsubstantiated theory which is contradicted by both Superman and the writer repeatedly.
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Originally posted by psycho gundam
Even if that were the case "my legendary hatred" isn't balanced out by your fanaticism in any way; you heavily outweigh any Superman "hate" by me by a long shot. You literally cannot shut up about the character to the point that from my perspective the effort you put into it reaches the equivalence of a job working at a off-shore oil rig where you don't see your family for months. Isn't it tiresome? It's tiresome to read let me tell you.
Put me on ignore if that pains you so much, will ya?
Originally posted by VastoLord1234
What? no it doesnt, pak himself disproved that theory and so did superman; superman was boasting to bruce, thats all he did; and also we dont know the properties of the blackhole generate by braniacs ship.
No, Pak/the comic (i.e. Pak) didn't disprove it; he merely didn't detail it in every minutiae. Just because it wasn't explicitly referenced in those text boxes, does not mean it did not occur.
Originally posted by VastoLord1234Web-based interviews are inadmissible on the forums--we go by what was published in the comic itself. If you have an issue with that rule, I suggest you PM Bada.
What? no it doesnt, pak himself disproved that theory and so did superman; superman was boasting to bruce, thats all he did; and also we dont know the properties of the blackhole generate by braniacs ship.
That said, per published/canon material straight from Pak himself, Superman flew through "a FEW black holeS"(plural)... And Bruce even reiterates: "Black holeS, huh?"(plural):
Since the black hole that sent Supes to the other side of the universe only accounts for ONE of those black holes, logic dictates that he MUST have flown through at least one additional black hole on his way BACK to earth... And why else would he purposefully plunge himself through a black hole during his return to earth, if not to expedite the journey..?
So yes, ODG's question/stance does make perfect sense whether you like it or not.