Originally posted by h1a8Prove what? That Wooverine said like 8 sentences in mid leap? He did. Dont believe me fine by me. Frankly don't care enough to look for the scan. Happened during a fight with Deadpool, search for it you want. Heck happens all the time, going by that logic characters have entire conversations while swinging a sword once. Still, not how it works in comics.
prove it
H1, shut up. Seriously, you lowball characters way too much to have any leg to stand on when it comes to accusing others.
Also, gauging how close the "wall" was to Oa is tricky at best. I don't really think that the feat is quantifiable, but at the very least we can assume that they were going well above light speed due to how ridiculously fast they were going.
Originally posted by -Pr-
Also, gauging how close the "wall" was to Oa is tricky at best. I don't really think that the feat is quantifiable, but at the very least we can assume that they were going well above light speed due to how ridiculously fast they were going.
I agree with this.
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It's easily above light speed. It's easily many many many many times light speed.
But quantifying it at 19 quadrillion times lightspeed? Well, I'll need to more evidence on-panel before I can swallow that.
Originally posted by Nibedicus
Your evidence:"Sheesh! Slow down, willya Surfer. I'm still weak from Jump-starting you"
My evidence:
"Hold on tight, we're about to enter warp speed"
The only thing your "evidence" proves is that they were traveling "fast" and generating momentum that makes it hard to hold on relative to Mar-vell's weakened grip. Meaning they could be traveling at sub light for all we know.
Mine proves that the point where they accelerated to the speed needed to cover the distance they travelled (w/c narration even goes ahead and further supports with the statement: "galaxies streak past them in a blur" "But before the minds of these two cosmic powers have a chance to comprehend..." meaning this all happened w/in a very short period of time and not while they're having a conversation) happened AFTER the conversation as Surfer stated that they were ABOUT TO enter said speed.
Stop trying to save face. You read the scan wrong (again), accept it and move on.
Too much typing for a simple argument.
My point is that it took surfer a long time to hit ftl speeds. once he hit those speeds then I don't care. he can travel a bazillion times the speed of light for all I care.
Now I'm not saying that it normally takes Surfer this long to reach light speeds but rather using that feat isn't good. A much better feat is the IG feat.
Originally posted by h1a8
Too much typing for a simple argument.My point is that it took surfer a long time to hit ftl speeds. once he hit those speeds then I don't care. he can travel a bazillion times the speed of light for all I care.
You have no basis (read: none) for your ass-umption other than your own little hope that somehow it took Surfer 20 seconds to reach warp speed even though absolutely nothing in the comic supports your little theory.
So yeah, your "point" doesn't exist outside your own biased mind.
Now you can think whatever you want, but I'll just let other people decide based on the merits of our arguments w/c is right and wrong.
Nice attempt at backtracking/changing your argument tho.
"Surfer took 20 seconds to travel cuz of the conversation."
"No, no, I meant it took him a long time to hit FTL speeds!"
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Originally posted by h1a8
Now I'm not saying that it normally takes Surfer this long to reach light speeds but rather using that feat isn't good. A much better feat is the IG feat.
Says you. Thankfully, you have zero credibility.
Originally posted by Nibedicus
Mind explaining what exactly happened here and what the travel "feat" was? I don't get it...
Originally posted by abhilegend
Top this surfer and thor, 1 billion lightyears before hawkman an hawkwoman said a few words.Half a million lightyeras? Pfft.
Hold on a second.
Superman was blown lightyears away (and knocked out cold) by the Thanagarian engines.
How is this a travelling speed feat?
It seems to be a durability feat for Superman.
Originally posted by deathlife
Hold on a second.Superman was blown lightyears away (and knocked out cold) by the Thanagarian engines.
How is this a travelling speed feat?
It seems to be a durability feat for Superman.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Hawkman and Hawkwoman used a device on a fleet which forced their hyperdrives to start and pull them to one billion lightyears from earth. Superman was caught in this too and his hyperspeed took him to a billion lightyears away from earth in a very short amount of time as you can see.
I kinda read it differently..
"Do we dare risk that? We don't have precise control of the auto-control. We could be caught in the overload effect ourselves."
"It worked! We're still in the Solar System"
"We're headed straight for the sun!"
Makes me think that it went this way: they used a special setting on their hyperdrive to fling the enemy fleet a billion light years away but lucked out and managed to stay within the solar system. The effect didn't affect Superman who didn't have a hyper drive but KOd him making him unable to help them as they fell to the sun.
Originally posted by Nibedicus
I kinda read it differently.."Do we dare risk that? We don't have precise control of the auto-control. We could be caught in the overload effect ourselves."
"It worked! We're still in the Solar System"
"We're headed straight for the sun!"
Makes me think that it went this way: they used a special setting on their hyperdrive to fling the enemy fleet a billion light years away but lucked out and managed to stay within the solar system. The effect didn't affect Superman who didn't have a hyper drive but KOd him making him unable to help them as they fell to the sun.
Its not debatable.
Originally posted by Nibedicus
hmm, so apparently, Hawkman/Hawkgirl didn't get blown away but Superman did (the cliffhanger art was a bit vague)?Still don't see how it's a traveling "feat", tho. Mind posting the rest of the scene/comic or at least point us to where we can find it so we can see for ourselves?
Originally posted by abhilegend
Because they didn't get hit by the overlord effect as it was stated while superman was affected and he was flung across the universe a billion lightyears away. How's that not a travel feat since the overlord effect only affected hyperspeed of those it affected and forced them to jump a billion lightyears away? That was the whole scene. Why are you nitpicking so much?
Dude, how am I nitpicking? I just feel like I need more context explaining the scene as a lot of it is kinda vague.
I mean, Superman wasn't even using his own power, most ppl would think he was obviously flung by the overload effect as we can't explain what possible reason he would have to fly that far away from Earth (while KOd at that)? So I find it hard to actually accept this as an actual travelling "feat".
Tried looking for it, and the only thing I found on it was:
http://www.comicvine.com/action-comics-589-green-on-green/4000-119277/
http://www.comixology.com/Action-Comics-1938-2011-589/digital-comic/DIG004769
Arisia finds Superman 400,000 light years from Earth--just in time to team up with the Green Lantern Corps to stop a mighty foe!
"Superman & The Green Lantern Corps"
That is why I would like more pages on 1) why we was tossed/flung in the first place when he wasn't supposed to be affected by the overload effect? 2) how far he was really tossed as comicvine and comixology synopsis of the issue seems to say 400k light years.
I'm willing to accept your interpretation as long as more pages are provided that explains it, but as of now, too much context has been left out for me to even consider this as anything but "Superman was tossed away by the overload effect" w/c isn't really a travel "feat" as that's what it looks like.
