Diana vs....Tony

Started by Q9910 pages

Would that I had your luck and/or skill with host providers, then.

Or you could just, y'know, use the one I use.

It's Photobucket.


I don't think there's any real consensus for whether Wonder Woman, post Greg Rucka, can resist high levels of electricity the way she can other things.

She took a shot from a villain who uses Zeus's lightning in WW600.

I think she's taken shots from lightning users plenty of times. Polaris using his magnetic powers to make things all zappy stopping her was, I believe, a unique occurance.

At any rate, satisfied now that Iron Man Extremis has gotten at least SOME representation, I'll give a clearer idea as to what I've seen that makes me think Diana, even without standard gear, would prove the winner in a Wonder Woman/Extremis battle.

First of all would be the strength factor.
She's always been stronger than Iron Man from the period I began reading, which was the John Byrne era, and several scans have been posted suggesting how she'd do even against armors the size of Iron Man Hulkbuster.

Second, Diana's speed is superior to Tony's.
Normally I wouldn't count this as much of a factor in a Wonder Woman fight, save for special defense movements like deflecting bullets.
Diana doesn't fight quite like her "tank" friends normally, who will stand there and take blows just because they can, but she makes no supereffort to be untouchable, either.
Actually, she blocks a lot.
Here, bereft of blocking equipment, it only makes sense she would be more prone to dodging, and therefore more likely to think of using her speed to advantage than she is normally wont.

Third, though, mentioned before, is her durability, which has been more or less steadily increasing over the years. Somewhere over in the "revamped" version of the Wonder Woman respect thread, someone posted a story written by Gail Simone where Di gets shot by an arrow.
Normally that would be remarkable for the fact someone managed to actually hit her with one, though not that, if they did, that the arrow drew blood. Here the reverse proves the case. She expresses great surprise that the point cut her and surmises that the arrows must be magic, which, if memory serves correctly, they are.

The implication is that Wonder Woman is normally INvulnerable to normal arrows, and by extension a variety of projectiles and/or small fire weapons, including edged ones, which was certainly not the case in earlier years.

If I get the chance, I may retrieve that one.
In the meantime, though, I have the following, which given the magnitudes of force and size involved, impressed me a great deal more:

Originally posted by Q99
Or you could just, y'know, use the one I use.

It's Photobucket.

Q, the best way to preserve the wealth of digital information on these boards is to use a VARIETY of host providers. I am not being facetious when I say I would consider it a good thing if you took virtually any of the images I've posted and provided the Photobucket version of them of your choice. I would not consider that an affront but an aid to me as an uploader and a fellow comic-reading fan.

Q, the best way to preserve the wealth of digital information on these boards is to use a VARIETY of host providers.

Oooor just use one that stays around. Not use small ones, but rather the most stable ones.

Also you seem to consider accessibility over years more important than ease of immediate access. It's more useful to have it easier to access the information now in a more compact format.

Originally posted by Q99

you seem to consider accessibility over years more important than ease of immediate access.

I do. I've stated that numerous times.

I've spent enough time trying to make the point in this thread, though.
There are advantages to using KMC that outside providers, even Photobucket, cannot match. Did you even notice that the scan you posted via Photobucket was deleted? And that happened VERY shortly after you did so, a matter of a few days or weeks if I remember right.
Proof is right in the link I gave on the previous page.

If you want to talk more on the subject, send me a private message.

I DO appreciate your time and effort, but unless you tell me something like

"KMC is going to be phasing out their image uploading! They voted on it and decided it uses too much bandwidth!",

it makes a lot more sense, given my goal of, yes, keeping this stuff around as long as possible for as many fans as possible
by using KMC's own resources FIRST.

After all, once that's done, there's nothing preventing me from translating my KMC work through other means.
And, like I said, I don't mind if others "borrow" the stuff I've put down here to date.

Thank you for your time.

Previous submission, Wonder Woman enduring the collision of that subway-sized serpent Quetzlotl and subway train on the points of that beast's teeth, has the following as ref info ...

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Source: Wonder Woman #40, Volume 3
Writer: Gail Simone
Penciller: Aaron Lopresti
Date: March 2010
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http://dc.wikia.com/wiki/Wonder_Woman_Vol_3_40

Earlier I stated Wonder Woman has faced the "Extremis" type of opponent before.

She has. At DC they are called OMAC. Nanite/nanobot technology bonding to people to make essentially super-suited metal warriors.
Greg Rucka spent essentially the latter part of his run featuring Wondy facing these down.

The following is essentially how I would envision Wonder Woman versus Extremis going down, unless someone provides some impressive showing from Tony that I can't even guess at.

Wondy versus ColdplayOmac. Image 1 of

Wondy versus Coldplay Omac.

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Wonder Woman versus Coldplay OMAC.

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Diana versus ColdplayOMAC.

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Diana versus ColdplayOMAC.

Image 5 of 7.

Wonder Woman versus ColdplayOMAC.

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WonderWoman versus ColdplayOMAC.

Image 7 of 7.

Note the relevant parallels in regards to what I've presented before.

Wondy has superior strength, speed, durability, and has faced this type of opponent before. Note the elements of resourceful thinking, using environment to her advantage, her ability to dodge laser blasts, the punishment in terms of heat extreme that she can handle, and her ability to remove her opponent to pretty much any venue of her choice.

Somebody would have to make a very impressive case for me to believe Tony would take even a 30% win record from THIS incarnation of Diana.

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Source: Wonder Woman #221, Volume 2
Writer: Greg Rucka
Penciller: Rags Morales & Cliff Richards
Date: November 2005
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http://dc.wikia.com/wiki/Wonder_Woman_Vol_2_221

I don't think there's any real consensus for whether Wonder Woman, post Greg Rucka, can resist high levels of electricity the way she can other things.

Originally posted by Q99

[Diana] took a shot from a villain who uses Zeus's lightning in WW600.

I think she's taken shots from lightning users plenty of times. Polaris using his magnetic powers to make things all zappy stopping her was, I believe, a unique occurance.

I'd be interested in knowing when the Polaris showing was and the author.
Again, these things appear more often during the 1990s than the 2000s.

Amazo gives pause concerning that principle, though.
His blue-lighting of her took place in 2008.

Your Wondy600 villain is named "Aegeus".
A noteworthy episode, Di's encounter with him, but I'm not sure it gives a solid answer either.
Worth posting all the same, though ...

Aegeus, stealer of the Thunderbolt.

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Interesting to note the author's stance on Superman's resistance (or decided lack thereof) in this instance ...

Black lightning had diana on his mercy after just one blast too.

... in contrast to Diana's.

Bwr your killing me

On the other hand, Aegeus's comment on Diana's success to this point does allow some questions to be made.

For instance:

Despite the fact that they are metal, can it be that authors think her bracelets can deflect lightning, magic lightning at least, without conducting any sort of shock? Or is the idea that magic lightning DOES conduct shock through her but she possesses such high resistance that its rendered harmless?

Here for instance, Aegeus himself makes the comment that she can't deflect magic lightning forever with her bracelets or whatever.

On the other hand, Aegeus also claims he has an object that can cut through her lasso, which nothing in the post-Crisis DCU which I know of had been able to do to that point. Also, his express point in that scene is to get at Superman and the train he is trying to protect, which are directly behind Wonder Woman at that moment. Doesn't seem coincidence, then, that the middle panel at the bottom features Diana fielding a bolt that would have missed her had she done nothing, but struck Clark and the others below ...

Who....who are you talking to, bwr? Are you seeking for us to acknowledge you?