Sasuke (current) vs. Goku (at any stage)

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ares834 Senior Member
Originally posted by wakkawakkawakka
If your referring to when he fought Nappa then I agree. But the Goku that went up against Raditz? Sasuke would win that bout.

Not a chance.

wakkawakkawakka Senior Member

Originally posted by StealthRanger
Based on?

Having better destructive feats. Raditz never did anything about mountain busting which Sasuke has surpassed by the end of the series

ares834 Senior Member

Raditz was pimp slapping around a guy who could casually destroy the moon...

StealthRanger S Class Demon

Well if you ignore that Raditz outclassed Goku and Piccolo, the latter of whom Death Star'd the moon then sure

wakkawakkawakka Senior Member

Originally posted by ares834
Raditz was pimp slapping around a guy who could casually destroy the moon...
Originally posted by StealthRanger
Well if you ignore that Raditz outclassed Goku and Piccolo, the latter of whom Death Star'd the moon then sure

I would go into detail about the "moon-busting" but that's been done already. Also Roshi did the same thing and he was far weaker than Raditz by this point which kind of undermines the feat of "moon busting" in a way.

So yeah...Sasuke's feats still outclass Raditz's feats. Besides there's always his Path powers he can use and I don't believe Raditz has an actual answer to being hit with Amateratsu manipulation: he'd dodge its base usage most likely.

ares834 Senior Member

Good point that Roshi busted the moon as well. Guess that means Raditz is way beyond moon busting.

Sauske stands even less of a chance.

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StealthRanger S Class Demon

Originally posted by wakkawakkawakka
I would go into detail about the "moon-busting" but that's been done already. Also Roshi did the same thing and he was far weaker than Raditz by this point which kind of undermines the feat of "moon busting" in a way.

So yeah...Sasuke's feats still outclass Raditz's feats. Besides there's always his Path powers he can use and I don't believe Raditz has an actual answer to being hit with Amateratsu manipulation: he'd dodge its base usage most likely.

Because Roshi can't be powerful too, right? I don't see why that wouldn't be a positive in Raditz's favor. Way to torpedo yourself, btw

Or Raditz nukes him with a palm blast

wakkawakkawakka Senior Member

Originally posted by ares834
Good point that Roshi busted the moon as well. Guess that means Raditz is way beyond moon busting.

Sauske stands even less of a chance.

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Not really considering what he's actually done doesn't match up to it. Or Piccolo for that matter but its whatever. Also its not like he has that type of durability nor any feats that would imply he could do it.

In short Sasuke's feats were more consistent & demonstratively better than Raditz hence my stance.

Originally posted by StealthRanger
Because Roshi can't be powerful too, right? I don't see why that wouldn't be a positive in Raditz's favor. Way to torpedo yourself, btw

Or Raditz nukes him with a palm blast


He really can't, or rather not powerful enough to matter in Raditz case.

Raditz isn't powerful enough to do that. And on Raditz level Naruto/Sasuke have blocked worse.

ares834 Senior Member

Sounds like you just want Sasuke to win so you ignore feats from the DBZ characters TBH.

StealthRanger S Class Demon

Translation: "I'll declare any feats I don't like an outlier and ignore feats and powerscaling so I can weasel out a win for my pweshus Saucegay"

Also if you want to pull the whole "consistency" BS Nardo wouldn't be that impressive either

wakkawakkawakka Senior Member

Originally posted by ares834
Sounds like you just want Sasuke to win so you ignore feats from the DBZ characters TBH.

How am I ignoring feats? Heck I even gave you guys a feat to use. I know Raditz has done anything about the realms of mountain busting nor has he shown a decisive speed advantage that would allow him to blitz. Meanwhile Sasuke can not only block them but has demonstrated power above that.

Also if BoSS Goku is being used who was weaker than Raditz, then Sasuke is still in the green.

StealthRanger S Class Demon

Welcome to fiction where fights between planet busters going all out only cause small craters in the ground

ares834 Senior Member
Originally posted by wakkawakkawakka
How am I ignoring feats?

You serious?

wakkawakkawakka Senior Member

Originally posted by ares834
You serious?

Yes, what feast have I ignored? Raditz isn't above mountain buster and Goku's feats at the BoSS are inferior to what EoS Sasuke can do. Even giving Goku moon busting power(still BoSS), exactly how would that net him a win?

StealthRanger S Class Demon

Roshi and Piccolo busting up the moon, actually declaring them outliers and ignoring powerscaling, but meh

Lack of colleteral damage between powerful characters going all out is meaningless. Think, instances of country busting vs fights with beings on the same tier that only cause damage comparable to sub kiloton explosives

Even giving Goku moon busting power(still BoSS), exactly how would that net him a win?

I'm sorry is this some kind of joke? What are you playing at?

wakkawakkawakka Senior Member

Originally posted by StealthRanger

I'm sorry is this some kind of joke? What are you playing at?

We know neither Raditz nor Goku(at this point) are powerful enough to casually throw out nukes. I'm asking for the methodology of how Goku is going to use this power. Sasuke's Susanoo at this point is easily more durable than any melee attack Goku could use. While an argument could be made for Goku being faster, same as Raditz, it isn't fast enough to blitz and Sasuke can dish out more power much more effectively than Goku at this point as well; Amateratsu coated Susanoo blows would be effective while Path powers could be use for an energy boost or last minute teleportation.

ares834 Senior Member
Originally posted by wakkawakkawakka
Yes, what feast have I ignored? Raditz isn't above mountain buster and Goku's feats at the BoSS are inferior to what EoS Sasuke can do. Even giving Goku moon busting power(still BoSS), exactly how would that net him a win?

How about ignoring Piccilo and Roshi's moon busting? Also Raditz not above mountain busting.... Good lord. Hell, even if we ignore Roshi's moon busting, he accidentally destroyed a mountain when he first shows up. Unless we ignore this as well. 🙄

StealthRanger S Class Demon
*snip*

Ah so it is a joke. Okay, I'll have a laugh to

wakkawakkawakka Senior Member

Originally posted by ares834
How about ignoring Piccilo and Roshi's moon busting? Also Raditz not above mountain busting.... Good lord. Hell, even if we ignore Roshi's moon busting, he accidentally destroyed a mountain when he first shows up. Unless we ignore this as well. 🙄

I mentioned both of those. Did Raditz do any more than that or show any durability that would match it? Nope, then he isn't above mountain busting. Furthermore how does this help Goku? When Raditz first showed up he was considerably weaker than him.

ares834 Senior Member

Raditz not above mountain level... laughcry