Originally posted by DarkSaint85I was under the impression it boosted all the users innate powers (from durability, to strength, to energy blast power) and also boosted the power of the other gems when used in tandem.
I thought the Power gem gave you protection against physical attacks.I count physical attacks to include being punched, kicked, blasted by energy beams (a la Surfer), transmutations (a la Sersi), physical spells etc.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
I thought the Power gem gave you protection against physical attacks.I count physical attacks to include being punched, kicked, blasted by energy beams (a la Surfer), transmutations (a la Sersi), physical spells etc.
That's exactly what it does but they are not realizing this. If any of these things worked against a legit power gem user, then what's the point of having the gem since it doesn't make you invulnerable? WTF.
Originally posted by carver9Because the power gem makes you more resistant to all of the above listed.
That's exactly what it does but they are not realizing this. If any of these things worked against a legit power gem user, then what's the point of having the gem since it doesn't make you invulnerable? WTF.
Originally posted by Black bolt z
I was under the impression it boosted all the users innate powers (from durability, to strength, to energy blast power) and also boosted the power of the other gems when used in tandem.
It grants invulnerability but it also boosts that person stats to insane levels. It also boosts the other gems but of the main purposes of the gem is to make you invulnerable.
Originally posted by Black bolt z
Because the power gem makes you more resistant to all of the above listed.
Thor didn't even know how to use the gem but him being in possession of it made him indestructible. Hell, it made him unstoppable to the point that he was considered a universal threat. Again, he wasn't even in full control of tapping into the power of the gem, he was just wearing it. Thanos had more control.
Originally posted by carver9I agree with this. But it would make you practically PHYSICALLY invulnerable. When the abstracts attacked Thanos, they did it on more than a physical level.
It grants invulnerability but it also boosts that person stats to insane levels. It also boosts the other gems but of the main purposes of the gem is to make you invulnerable.
Originally posted by carver9If he had just used the power gem? As I already said. Throwing him 1 a million years into the past, warping him out of existence, mindraping him to complete insanity.
So how would they have stopped him?
Abstracts attack on much more than the physical plane. When he fought the heroes, almost all their attacks were physical, so he little chance of being beaten.
Originally posted by Black bolt z
If he had just used the power gem? As I already said. Throwing him 1 a million years into the past, warping him out of existence, mindraping him to complete insanity.Abstracts attack on much more than the physical plane. When he fought the heroes, almost all their attacks were physical, so he little chance of being beaten.
You are missing the point. Throwing him in the past wouldn't have worked since that would have given him the chance to power up. Warping him out of existence isn't working either. Everything you said minus sending him in the past wouldn't have worked.
Me and Damborgson argument was...he stated why didn't the Abstracts attack Thanos when he weakened himself. I told him that if they would ha e attacked, it wouldn't have served a purpose because it wouldnt have stopped him, which would have given him the time to power up.
Originally posted by carver9
Which wouldn't get past his true invulnerability. If it was as easy ad you are trying to make it, there really wouldn't have been a need for any abstracts since there were beings out there already that was beyond just physical attacks.
What wouldnt get past his true invulnerability? The power gem is a physical amp and protector. Doesnt say anytjing about the soul or other aspects of thanos that could have been exploted. Something else that I thought may have been the reason for keeping the abstracts in reserve was that reality just about collapsed when they fought thanos. Maybe Adam wanted to avoid the whole situation all together.
Originally posted by carver9But ti would have stopped him if he was just using the power gem. Forget throwing him into the past, why wouldn't mindraping or raping him to death work?
You are missing the point. Throwing him in the past wouldn't have worked since that would have given him the chance to power up. Warping him out of existence isn't working either. Everything you said minus sending him in the past wouldn't have worked.Me and Damborgson argument was...he stated why didn't the Abstracts attack Thanos when he weakened himself. I told him that if they would ha e attacked, it wouldn't have served a purpose because it wouldnt have stopped him, which would have given him the time to power up.
Think about it this way. Thanos with the full gauntlet (omniscient and omnipresent remember) said that the heroes had a .05% chance of beating him. You think the heroes would have a .05% chance of beating Galactus, 2 Celestials, Chaos and Order, the stranger, Kronos, Love and Hate, Death joined in later, and Eternity?
You really think the heroes would have had any chance whatsoever of beating them? If a bunch of heralds and below had a .05% chance of beating him with the power gem, why do the cosmics have no chance of beating him with the power gem alone.
Originally posted by carver9
It protects the user from ALL harm and bfring Thanos isn't ending the threat, especially when he can teleport back to the battlefield under his own power. What can the abstracts do to Thanos is he is invulnerable from ALL attacks (which is what the powergem grants...complete resistance from all attacks).
If Thanos was invulnerable to all physical attacks then why did the comic say that the heroes have a .05 chance of winning? Why was Masterson and Hulk knocking him around like a rag doll?
Originally posted by psycho gundamThats not the instance i was taling about. Iwas talking about whem Mephisto blasted him and had both hands on the gaunlet and said he was going to "relieve Him of his burden"
only cause thanos tricked him. he didn't lower his senses or power, on the contrary he expanded them thanks to mephisto.
I'm puzzled. Is there a reference in another comic where it is stated that against the heroes in the ig Saga,thanos used only the power gem, because didn't thanos himself say something about cutting off sensory aspects of the gems,but retaining their power to be used,hence the limit he placed on himself was not being able to predict their moves,thus giving the heroes a token chance at winning . Obviously if he continued to limit himself against the abstracts,they would have a greater chance at victory,by how much though is pure speculation .