Originally posted by TheGodKiller"Darkest aspect"? You mean the 'version' of Owen who appeared in a single comic over a decade ago(FF Annual #27)? I think it's dumb for people to even use that showing as though it's a valid 'tactic/mindset' for Owen, tbh.
If he has all three aspects of his power(controlling inorganic molecules , organic molecules and the space-time fabric) and should he release his "darkest aspect" in this battle , Owen take this fight handily .
Bottom line: Owen was only able to defeat Sentry prior to Sentry realizing that he could manipulate molecules to his whim. Once Sentry figured that out, he owned MM like he was a weak feeb.
Read a comic. ermmgrin
Originally posted by Galan007
"Darkest aspect"? You mean the 'version' of Owen who appeared in a single comic over a decade ago(FF Annual #27)? I think it's dumb for people to even use that showing as though it's a valid 'tactic/mindset' for Owen, tbh.Bottom line: Owen was only able to defeat Sentry prior to Sentry figuring out that he could manipulate molecules to his whim. Once Sentry figured that out, he owned MM like he was a weak feeb.
Read a comic. ermmgrin
Originally posted by Galan007
ermmgrin
Originally posted by Galan007
"Darkest aspect"? You mean the 'version' of Owen who appeared in a single comic over a decade ago(FF Annual #27)? I think it's dumb for people to even use that showing as though it's a valid 'tactic/mindset' for Owen, tbh.
Originally posted by Galan007
Bottom line: Owen was only able to defeat Sentry prior to Sentry realizing that he could manipulate molecules to his whim. Once Sentry figured that out, he owned MM like he was a weak feeb.
On a sidenote : Sentry could always whimsically manipulate molecules , he(along with Tony and Reed) never really understood the true nature of his powers , until the battle with Owen .
These are Sentry's own words : "I can control the molecules of my world . That's how I do what I . I never knew that ."
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Originally posted by TheGodKillerA canon showing that certainly wouldn't be considered 'in character', considering MM has only done so a single time in his entire character history. Frankly, I think when people try to use that showing in a random MM thread, they're digging deep.
Its still a canon showing .
Originally posted by TheGodKillerMM was still unable to take back control of himself from Sentry:
Yeah and he did that after Owen was distracted by a nuke here :
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/12644257/Owen_own_Sentry9.jpg.html
The nuke distraction had nothing to do with the fact that Sentry's control over molecules (even Owen's OWN molecules) was simply more powerful.
Originally posted by TheGodKillerSo like I said:
On a sidenote : Sentry could always whimsically manipulate molecules , he(along with Tony and Reed) never really understood the true nature of his powers , until the battle with Owen .
These are Sentry's own words : "I can control the molecules of my world . That's how I do what I. I never knew that ."
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Originally posted by Galan007👆
Bottom line: Owen was only able to defeat Sentry prior to Sentry realizing that he could manipulate molecules to his whim. Once Sentry figured that out, he owned MM like he was a weak feeb.ermmgrin
Originally posted by Galan007
A canon showing that certainly wouldn't be considered 'in character', considering MM has only done so a single time in his entire character history. Frankly, I think when people try to use that showing in a random MM thread, they're digging deep.
Originally posted by Galan007
MM was still unable to take back control of himself from Sentry:
"HOW ARE YOU DOING THIS TO ME?!?!"The nuke distraction had nothing to do with the fact that Sentry's control over molecules (even Owen's OWN molecules) was simply more powerful.
That still doesn't take from the fact that Sentry moved in after Owen was distracted by the nuke , essentially catching him off-guard .
Originally posted by Galan007
So like I said:
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Originally posted by TheGodKiller...Which doesn't make it more in character. none
That was the only time when Owen had the full extent of his power at his disposal . That is , the abilities to control organic,inorganic molecules and warp space-time .
Originally posted by TheGodKiller...Which still doesn't take from the fact that MM was unable to break Sentry's control over his OWN molecules. If MM would have been more powerful than Sentry, he would have been able to break said control with no issues-- but he couldn't. Additionally, did we see MM reconstruct himself after Sentry atomized him? I don't recall so...
You do realize that Owen essentially wanted to ultimately lose in that battle with the Dark Avengers ?That still doesn't take from the fact that Sentry moved in after Owen was distracted by the nuke , essesntially catching him off-guard .
Sentry was undoubtedly portrayed as more powerful at the end. Arguing that much is lulz-worthy, considering the outcome...
Originally posted by TheGodKillerUm, yeah. It's almost exactly what I said, in fact.
Hardly .
Originally posted by Galan007
...Which doesn't make it more in character. none
Also , it wasn't an outright assertion on my part , merely a speculative "if" :
Originally posted by TheGodKiller
If he has all three aspects of his power(controlling inorganic molecules , organic molecules and the space-time fabric) and should he release his "darkest aspect" in this battle , Owen take this fight handily .
Originally posted by Galan007
...Which still doesn't take from the fact that MM was unable to break Sentry's control over his OWN molecules. If MM would have been more powerful than Sentry, he would have been able to break said control with no issues-- but he couldn't. Additionally, did we see MM reconstruct himself after Sentry atomized him? I don't recall so...
It doesn't take a genius to know that Sentry could affect him . Here , Owen himself admits that Sentry could hurt him :
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/12644258/Owen_own_Sentry10.jpg.html
Originally posted by Galan007
Sentry was undoubtedly portrayed as more powerful at the end. Arguing that much is lulz-worthy, considering the outcome...
Originally posted by Galan007
Um, yeah. It's almost exactly what I said, in fact.
Originally posted by TheGodKiller
Hardly .
Originally posted by TheGodKillerMM has been manipulating molecules for much, much longer than Sentry. Obviously he's going to know how to use said powers more precisely.
As the scan I posted previously proves , Owen essentially wanted to ultimately loose the battle against the Dark Avengers .
Also , in your own scans , Sentry admits that Owen is still more adept at controlling molecules than he is :
However, more precision =/= more raw power. Sentry blatantly had the latter (as proved when MM was HELPLESS against his molecular manipulation.)
Originally posted by TheGodKillerSentry was clearly more powerful. MM was completely helpless against him, and was apparently unable to reform afterward.
It doesn't take a genius to know that Sentry could affect himThe only thing that Sentry had going for him , and which seemingly portrayed him as Owen's superior , was the ability to reform himself after being disintegrated .
Otherwise , in terms of overall raw power , they were even , as neither could escape the grasp of the other once captured by his opponent .
Again: Owen was only able to defeat Sentry prior to Sentry figuring out that he could manipulate molecules to his whim. Once Sentry figured that out, he owned MM like he was a weak feeb.
That is an unarguable fact.
Originally posted by TheGodKillerSeems like you argue just to argue. My initial statement (posted above) correlated exactly with on panel happenings-- yet here you are arguing it. meh, w/e.
And my response remains exactly the same :
