Originally posted by Galan007
MM has been manipulating molecules for much, much longer than Sentry. Obviously he's going to know how to use said powers more precisely.However, more precision =/= more raw power. Sentry blatantly had the latter (as proved when MM was HELPLESS against his molecular manipulation.)
Originally posted by Galan007
Sentry was clearly more powerful. MM was completely helpless against him, and was apparently unable to reform afterward.
Originally posted by Galan007
Again: Owen was only able to defeat Sentry prior to Sentry figuring out that he could manipulate molecules to his whim. Once Sentry figured that out, he owned MM like he was a weak feeb.
Originally posted by Galan007
That is an unarguable fact.
Originally posted by Galan007
Seems like you argue just to argue. My initial statement (posted above) correlated exactly with on panel happenings-- yet here you are arguing it. meh, w/e.
Originally posted by Galan007
"Darkest aspect"? You mean the 'version' of Owen who appeared in a single comic over a decade ago(FF Annual #27)? I think it's dumb for people to even use that showing as though it's a valid 'tactic/mindset' for Owen, tbh.Bottom line: Owen was only able to defeat Sentry prior to Sentry realizing that he could manipulate molecules to his whim. Once Sentry figured that out, he owned MM like he was a weak feeb.
Read a comic. ermmgrin
Who do you see winning this fight? If we use current MM?
Originally posted by Golgo13
Before that, smart ass. 🙂
Team MM is gonna argue that prior to his Beyonder fight, Owen wasn't at "full power", so those fights don't count, but then how do they explain his fight vs Sentry that happened after the Beyonder fight?
Fact is, the Beyonder fight is the anomaly in post retcon Owen's comic life. He only had a SLIVER of the power he had as the "Half Cube Being" he was after he and the Beyonder were retconed. Beyonder was the other half.
MM and Beyonder merged into one being, which later became Kosmos (with a now powerless MM being ejected from the Cube and reclaiming a sliver of his old "half cube being" power he hid inside Marsha), which later became Maker, which later became Beyonder again (and then Beyonder turned out to not even be a Cube Being but an Inhuman and under the jurisdiction of Black Bolt!).
So you have a human being with a SLIVER of the half Cube Being power he had post retcon vs a FULL CUBE BEING and the sliver of the half cube being won that fight. So yeah............
Originally posted by Golgo13
So, last MM would probably lose to Dominus.
Originally posted by TheGodKillerWhy do you keep ignoring what I say?
Completely disagree here . Sentry was also helpless , when Owen caught him in his hold , as this shows us :
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ALL of what you posted happened BEFORE Sentry had the revelation that he could control MM's molecules ftw.
Originally posted by TheGodKillerThese are Sentry's own words : "I can control the molecules of my world . That's how I do what I do. I never knew that." (this statement was made immediately after he atomized MM, btw.)
Except Sentry was always able to manipulate molecules to his whim , he simply never realized the nature of his powers(neither did Reed or Tony) , until the battle with Molecule Man .
It wasn't until the end of THAT FIGHT that Sentry realized controlling the molecules around him is how his abilities worked. Once he realized this, MM was effectively POWERLESS against him. FACT. Why are you arguing with this? It's stated/shown right there on panel.
Originally posted by TheGodKillerSee above. It wasn't until the very end that Sentry realized he could manipulate MM's molecules, ftw... That's likely why he never tried to do so beforehand.
No , it doesn't . You are stating that Sentry was incapable of whimsically manipulating molecules prior to his (4th in a series of)confrontation(s) with MM , when he himself tells us "That's how I do what I do."
Originally posted by MindsetHe's a pathological liar. It's clear as day.
I didn't read the posts, but obviously Galan exposed Godkiller's lying ways.
Originally posted by MindsetWhy don't you 2 get a private chat room or something?
He's also incapable of doing simple math.I wonder if they are related.
Gk, MM killed sentry first, sentry came back and killed Reese. If Reese could come back he could fight again but I think sentry proved that he can overpower Reese so if Reese could come back, sentry would over power him again.
Originally posted by DiesldudeCould you please delete your post if you aren't going to contribute.
Why don't you 2 get a private chat room or something?Gk, MM killed sentry first, sentry came back and killed Reese. If Reese could come back he could fight again but I think sentry proved that he can overpower Reese so if Reese could come back, sentry would over power him again.