Originally posted by NemeBro
I'll actually admit that I could be wrong about this one specifically, since I'm not a big Thanos or Drax buff.What were the circumstances?
And frankly, destroying half a planet physically is still much greater than the best punching feat in DBZ (Which belongs to Buutenks, by the way).
Read that yourself. He physically beat up a planet.
Better than DBZ.
😬
He flew through it so fast it exploded.
Not every fiction operates under bullshit planet core chain reaction nonsense like DBZ, prove that is what SBP did.
I'm not seeing a single punch.
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/killplanet2.jpg
Anyone with the right durability can pull this off. I asked you for punching fts.
Mm, was only a glance at its volume.
Roughly the volume the Island Kick destroyed is about 6,500m^3 of rock or 5e9 Joules, just under City Block. I'm probably not considering the kept momentum through the first island, but damns are not being given.
Namor would need to throw a 100,000 ton cruise ship only 5.09m to equal that. Throwing it 100m for instance would be 9.823e10 Joules.. ok not Town level, but an average ship at thrown any distance will be above that kick.
(Assuming a 20 degree throw and a 1m arm movement)
Originally posted by Damborgson
Hush. I'm talking to someone who matters more than you. You had your turn now give Carver his chance pumpkin.
CARVER?
Carver matters more than I do?
This is like...the worst day in my life. Not that I hate Carver (he's cool) but no one takes him seriously.
*slits wrists.......of someone else*
Originally posted by NemeBro
The best off the top of my head is kicking Freeza through two islands.IIRC there are better showings, but I can't remember them honestly.
Probably Goku's best strength feat was a passive telepathic one. When he powered up into SSJ3, it shook the entire earth.
That's 5.972E24 kg
🙂
Originally posted by NemeBro
Noncanon.
Not for this thread. This is the anime and manga vs. thread: the anime can count.
Originally posted by BloodRain
Mm, was only a glance at its volume.Roughly the volume the Island Kick destroyed is about 6,500m^3 of rock or 5e9 Joules, just under City Block. I'm probably not considering the kept momentum through the first island, but damns are not being given.
Namor would need to throw a 100,000 ton cruise ship only 5.09m to equal that. Throwing it 100m for instance would be 9.823e10 Joules.. ok not Town level, but an average ship at thrown any distance will be above that kick.
(Assuming a 20 degree throw and a 1m arm movement)
W-w...
Where do these calculations come from? Show your work.
And, Nemebro, the moon was completely vaporized, not blown up. This means that you have to create enough power to vaporize that matter. Due to the mass of the earth, you'd have to produce slightly more than 81 times the amount of power Roshi and Piccolo used to vape the moons.
And the moon is larger than some planets (exoplanets) meaning that both Roshi and Piccolo are planet busters. Consider that the moon and earth are the two most densest bodies in our solar system (bodies with a diameter greater than 1000 km), then you have a case for gas-planets, whose mass can be significantly smaller than the moon but whose volume can be significantly greater than the moon, which could be vaped by Roshi and Piccolo.
So, Damborgson, this is why I never said 'earth' and why I stuck to the word "planet." I am much smarter than your average poster: I won't be caught playing silly word games. I know enough about astrophysics (my former area of study) as to not be caught in the traps of specific planetary labels. You just need to know masses of celestial objects to get your point across.
Summary for the idiots with TL : DR syndrome: Roshi, at a power level of 100-200, can vape planets. It is destroyed with Ki energy...which the power levels are also measuring. Goku has a PL of 150,000,000 when he fights Freiza. That clearly indicates Goku has 750,000 times the amount of energy needed to vape the moon...and well within the 81 times more amount of energy needed to vape the earth. Krillin's highest measured PL is 75,000, which is still more than enough Ki to vape the earth.
Can Wolverine withstand a power that can Vape the earth?
Let me know: my knowledge is a bit rusty. lol
Originally posted by KingD19
Champion jumped into orbit, then punched a planet's surface and it blew up.
You don't think Goku could punch a planet and cause a chain reaction.?
@Bloodrain...
I'm mot asking for lifting fts since DBZ didn't circle around that, I'm asking for punching fts and Namor doesn't have a single punching ft close to what DBZ has done.
Originally posted by carver9
You don't think Goku could punch a planet and cause a chain reaction.?@Bloodrain...
I'm mot asking for lifting fts since DBZ didn't circle around that, I'm asking for punching fts and Namor doesn't have a single punching ft close to what DBZ has done.
I think while DBZ characters all had crazy potential, it was usually more about damaging their combatant and the current environment when they weren't trying to kill a planet. Could Goku punch a planet to death? Probably.
Goku hasn't shown the strength to punch a plant to do any notable damage.
Youre comparing other verses to the "DB lifting feats <<< striking feats" code, in other verses a characters strength is usually the same lifting/striking unless otherwise stated. Namor can use the force of the throw into a punch... Wait, throwing something uses around the same force as a strike. Throwing = Striking.
Originally posted by BloodRain
Goku hasn't shown the strength to punch a plant to do any notable damage.Youre comparing other verses to the "DB lifting feats <<< striking feats" code, in other verses a characters strength is usually the same lifting/striking unless otherwise stated. Namor can use the force of the throw into a punch... Wait, throwing something uses around the same force as a strike. Throwing = Striking.
Goku should be able to lay waste to a planet with his fist.
Also, out of the thousands of times Namor showed up in a comic, you don't have one showing of his punching power? I have seen Namor showings and he doesn't have them. By the way, stop using real world logic for a comic book. Major fail. Show some punching fts please.
'Should' means nothing when A) he has no feat of this level and B) the best physical feat is <Town from Gotenks.
Avoiding the point. I'm not going to find you your punching feat just because you say you want to look at one, especially if it can be done with what we have. Force of throwing is basically that of striking, and Namor is stronger than all but Gotenks and above.
Originally posted by BloodRain
'Should' means nothing when A) he has no feat of this level and B) the best physical feat is <Town from Gotenks.Avoiding the point. I'm not going to find you your punching feat just because you say you want to look at one, especially if it can be done with what we have. Force of throwing is basically that of striking, and Namor is stronger than all but Gotenks and above.
Concession accepted. Dragonball Z doesn't focus on lifting fts and you are basically trying to use this against the character. Let's compare something that both have. Namor and Dragonball characters have punched plenty of people, hell, Namor probably have more punching fts but he doesn't have anything close to what the weakest of DBZ characters has displayed. You using something like a "town" ft (lol, especially when you look at it as a hole...these are tiny bodies that is making these huge craters in the ground...the size of the hole might be the size of a town but the force is something different) is making your argument look foolish. Now again, last time asking this question since we both know DBZ doesn't focus on lifting things...whats Namor best punching ft.?
A) he has no feat of this level and B) the best physical feat is <Town from Gotenks.
Show me Goku being able to "lay waste to a planet with his fist". Seriously. You're desperate for me to specifically show you a punching feat, so go ahead and show me a punching feat at this level. And in your next post, I know your track record for stalling.
And if you failed to notice that calc above Im using DB's /striking/ feats, not their lifting ones. And lol at you thinking that me not doing everything you ask is me conceding. Listen to my words; What youre asking for is pointless. Does Namor only use lifting strength to throw things? No. Just because the DB verse plays by different rules doesnt mean all verses do. DB has their strength feats from the island kick or crater, Namor has his from ship throwing. Its simple.
You think that hole was Town 'sized'? Its barely above 30m wide from what we can scale. No, its the destructive force thats just below Town level.
