Are we still accepting that nonsense about Hulk never having killed anyone? That the times he smashed buildings into rubble, no one was inside? Or when he'd pick up a army tank and chuck it 25 miles into the horizon that the soldiers inside parachuted out or something? If not, wouldn't the PS work on him for murdering the innocent?
Originally posted by redhotrash
Are we still accepting that nonsense about Hulk never having killed anyone? That the times he smashed buildings into rubble, no one was inside? Or when he'd pick up a army tank and chuck it 25 miles into the horizon that the soldiers inside parachuted out or something? If not, wouldn't the PS work on him for murdering the innocent?
If it could have, and he was guilty of murder then it would have, and GR would have done so.
Originally posted by redhotrash
So you are standing by this then? That in over 30 years of mass destruction, losing control of himself, and trashing the armed forces, Hulk has never killed a innocent?
It's not really what I'm willing to stick by, but rather what has been written into canon. According to continuity the Hulk is not guilty of consciously murdering anyone that did not deserve to die. Trauma was killed, but he deserved it. If the Hulk was guilty of murder GR would have given him the stare. While we're on this subject, why hasn't GR gone after Thor, Iron Man, or any costumed super power that has toppled a building?
I thought the whole "no pis" thing applied to these boards. I suppose knocking a building over accidentally in a fight isnt murder. But picking up a tank and hurling it off into the horizon can't really be considered a "my bad" moment. Still its not something I'd argue over. I've been away from these forums for over a year and hoped maybe things would be a bit more enlightened when I got back. Unfortunately its still full of unreasonable Hulk and Wolverine wank.
Originally posted by redhotrash
I thought the whole "no pis" thing applied to these boards. I suppose knocking a building over accidentally in a fight isnt murder. But picking up a tank and hurling it off into the horizon can't really be considered a "my bad" moment. Still its not something I'd argue over. I've been away from these forums for over a year and hoped maybe things would be a bit more enlightened when I got back. Unfortunately its still full of unreasonable Hulk and Wolverine wank.
Hey I never said that I didn't agree with you, but going off of on panel evidence GR could not detect a murderous spirit within the Hulk, and so the PS would not work on those not guilty. What stops the Hulk from punting GR into space? So you might want to question whether or not the Hulk realized that he killed all of those unrecorded people in all of those tanks and buildings. You have to also question the Hulk's various mental incarnations, because from what i know of the character, he spent the majority of his appearances as a large green moron.
Some people are talking about unleashed Ghost Rider.Is this what they're talking about?
http://i1081.photobucket.com/albums/j351/igniz5/Blackheart/BHVsGR4.jpg
http://i1081.photobucket.com/albums/j351/igniz5/Blackheart/BHVsGR5.jpg
I will admit this version of Ghost Rider would beat Hulk.But there was circumstances involved there.The fact Blackheart was breaking the treaties between heaven and hell allowed Ghost Rider to unleashed his powers against Blackheart.
Originally posted by Igniz
Some people are talking about unleashed Ghost Rider.Is this what they're talking about?http://i1081.photobucket.com/albums/j351/igniz5/Blackheart/BHVsGR4.jpg
http://i1081.photobucket.com/albums/j351/igniz5/Blackheart/BHVsGR5.jpgI will admit this version of Ghost Rider would beat Hulk.But there was circumstances involved there.The fact Blackheart was breaking the treaties between heaven and hell allowed Ghost Rider to unleashed his powers against Blackheart.
That really depends on how far the Hulk was willing to go. He was unleashing a hell of a lot of power in the Dark Dimension, and even though those scans of the Rider looked impressive, it had nothing on the destruction unleashed in that dimension. if the Hulk and Betty were any stronger, they could have high-fived each other, and planets would have exploded.
That's if you're willing to consider what an in air collision did. 😬
Originally posted by Stoic
That really depends on how far the Hulk was willing to go. He was unleashing a hell of a lot of power in the Dark Dimension, and even though those scans of the Rider looked impressive, it had nothing on the destruction unleashed in that dimension. if the Hulk and Betty were any stronger, they could have high-fived each other, and planets would have exploded.That's if you're willing to consider what an in air collision did. 😬
That's why I asked first if this version of Ghost Rider is the Noble Kale one.Noble Kale was a treaty between Mephisto and the angel Uriel.And Ghost Rider unleashed this power against Blackheart.Blackheart upon this time was ruling his father Mephisto's domain of hell.So we can atleast say this version of Blackheart is equal to Mephisto in terms of power.And Mephisto>>>>>>WWH or HOTM Hulk.Mephisto retconned Spiderman's history by the way.So Mephisto wields crazy amount of power.So this means Blackheart king of hell(or Mephisto's domain) wields that power.So yes! Unleashed GR would beat WWH/HOTM Hulk.But this statement is moot since the GR used in this thread, isn't the unleashed one.And the fact, special circumstances were involved for Noble Kale to unleashed that power.
Originally posted by Stoic
I don't see how the Hulk would be found guilty of something that he had no recollection of doing, even if he did do it. Should you be judged because of the ants that you step on every summer day as you walk up the street? I guess so, even if you were unaware of stepping on them.
Originally posted by Blight
Hahaha so hulk killing an innocent should not be blamed because he had no recollection of doing it? The ant analogy works so well with drunk drivers, right?
The drunk knew beforehand that they weren't supposed to drink, the same goes for those that text while driving. I don't see the correlation to be honest. The rules behind the Penance Stare could be directly linked to Christian beliefs that those without sin can not be accused by the enemy, which extends to not being held accountable for sins that one is unaware of.
A life is a life, even an ants life, and when you walk up the street crushing them to death without knowing, you simply can not be held responsible for it.
Originally posted by redhotrash
So you are standing by this then? That in over 30 years of mass destruction, losing control of himself, and trashing the armed forces, Hulk has never killed a innocent?
