Xavier vs Thor

Xavier did make Wolverine go to 'sleep' in Magneto War and he was in berzerker rage I think.

Thats a monstrous feat. Chuck overpowered Rachel, and goes to down the entire X-Men/Avengers + Super Namor with a hand-wave.

Originally posted by mastagambit
Xavier did make Wolverine go to 'sleep' in Magneto War and he was in berzerker rage I think.

He was pissed, but not really berserker. His TP resistance has been upgraded since. Jessica should have been rendered uconscious like the others...

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
He was pissed, but not really berserker. His TP resistance has been upgraded since. Jessica should have been rendered uconscious like the others...

He was really really pissed. Xavier told him to back down and he didn't. Then we have Emma telling Wolverine to stop but yet he backhands her?

Logan is also receiving expert telepathic assault training from Kid Omega in secret.
Something tells me Logan will soon be one of the best Telepathic shielders.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Jessica should have been rendered uconscious like the others...

Originally posted by basilisk
Moondragon has basically mindraped Thor several times (in fact what she did to him on Ba-Bani while he was mind controlled pretty much was actual rape). She only failed against a mentally insane Thor.

Severanl times ? When ???

She did it one time, and after that she failed.

The insane Thor was not this one:

Was this:

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As much as it pains me to say it, Xavier's stock is much higher than Thor's is in Marvel these days.

Originally posted by basilisk
Yeah, makes you wonder why, given the problems the Avengers have long had with telepaths, and with Iron Man, McCoy etc trying to build psi blockers, they don't just go to SHIELD and say I'll have what she has. I mean, with them being best buddies with Nick Fury, and Cap's long history with them, and having access to SHIELD files & tech, and Iron Man being director of SHIELD, and Steve being in charge of national security and having access to SHIELD, and so on.

Yeah, they should all have special TP blocking helmets. Even Thor should get a new helmet that blocks TP, he could even make it look the same with the little wings. I've always wondered why Iron Man doesn't hook everyone up more.

Does War Machine have psychic defenses?

Using Stark tech and all?

Originally posted by eaebiakuya
[B]Severanl times ? When ???

She did it one time, and after that she failed.

The insane Thor was not this one:

And from the context, she was probably amped by Goddess.

makes me wonder about that old scan where xavier is talking and says he could have put all the inhabitants of battleworld to sleep--and galactus was in the picture! 😂

i'd have always given xavier the nod over thor, btw, so, meh. not a sweep, but a majority given thor's history and the level of power xavier has. sometimes i think charlie gets underestimated. not saying he should have been able to take out namor like he did, but namor isn't emma (which might be interesting....) but look in the respect thread--xavier has some crazy-a$$ feats.

I would never say that Xavier doesn't have the ability to telepathically assault Thor, but a bloodlusted Thor would likely be much harder to effect and halt in time before a Mjolnir throw or lightning bolt hit Chuck. On the other side of the coin, a bloodlusted Xavier would be a different animal altogether, too.

are both bloodlusted here? didn't see that, just thought it was a standard battle. i agree with you, in any event.

Yeah, both are bloodlusted per OP.

Originally posted by TheGodKiller
There is no context behind that feat , not any that I know of . Based on that single feat , this should be spite against him of epic proportions , despite the fact that it doesn't make ANY sense why Emma , who is an Omega-class telepath like him and almost as experienced , couldn't even enter Thor's mind , despite her PF-amp .

Inconsistencies like these are probably the reason why you've been hearing these alleged rumors about AVX :

Not really an inconsistency because Charles and Emma werent performing the same action. Emma was trying to mind control Thor whilst Xavier was just slammin a mental suggestion into his mind.

Emma being a Phoenix host also doesnt make it an inconsistency because how uber a host is depends on how much power they draw on.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Fail much? I know its a lot of words but you can at least look to the pretty pictures. Phoenix emma hasn't shown any type of TK to my knowledge.

The other hosts have shown tk on panel like this, Namor rasing ships and Colossus levitating missiles:

So of course Emma could stomp Eric with tk and hold him in place without tp. Just so happens that it was tp being alluded to. Indication being that Eric glanced at his helmet.

Originally posted by leonidas
makes me wonder about that old scan where xavier is talking and says he could have put all the inhabitants of battleworld to sleep--and galactus was in the picture! 😂

Either way, Xavier put Thor, Namorforce, Wolverine (has psi shielding), War Machine (who I believe has psi shielding), Omega Ice Man, and Cap (believe has psi shielding) to sleep among others.

Heh.

Xavierforce vs Phoenixforce coming up

When Xavier doesn't hold back, there's really little he can't accomplish with his TP. But the fact that Spider Woman was the only one resistant enough to not be dropped just reeks of PIS.

And All of the Phoenix 5 have TK. Emma included. And she was speaking to Erik telepathically, and proceeded to paralyze him telepathically in that scan in question, which is why Erik looked to his helmet in regret after his mind was just violated.

Thor resisted a telepatic assault from the Other in the annual...