Originally posted by JakeTheBankthere shouldn't be an argument, his speed should be objective and quantifiable, not open to interpretation. I'm curious what his fastest stated speed is on panel. I'll ask blair next time he's around.
High end super sonic at least. I think you could make an argument for sub-luminal speeds depending on the armor.
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Because Starscream likes to make himself look like a joke.Scans of said feat? Or are you trolling/joking around?
I can't find it - I remember DarkCrawlers' Namor respect thread being better - but essentially Namor carves a big, intricate fish statue out of a block of granite with his bare hands in one or two panels.
Originally posted by Starscream M
hmmm, I seem to have been right about hulk being more powerful to thor...an argument I've had with you and rage countless times, which marvel has supported my side in recent timesdon't get me started on hulk-stopping rain pls (a one time PIS bull-faeces event doesn't count, you should know better )
does thor have the ability to fart rainbows that can also push juggernaut back too?
My God, your butthurt knows no bounds.
I've never said that Hulk wasn't stronger than Thor. In terms of actual power output, though, I don't see how anyone could argue that Hulk is more powerful than Thor, especially when you look at the people Hulk fights and the people Thor fights. Pretty obvious that Marvel considers Hulk stronger and Thor more powerful.
Thor's rain =/= normal rain. That's the part you won't - or can't - comprehend. You not liking it doesn't change the fact that Thor's control over the weather goes well beyond the realm of what's natural for planet Earth. You denouncing it as PIS doesn't make it so.
Seriously, Bruce, take your butthurt and go home and be a family man.
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
I can't find it - I remember DarkCrawlers' Namor respect thread being better - but essentially Namor carves a big, intricate fish statue out of a block of granite with his bare hands in one or two panels.
Fair enough. Panels in themselves are sketchy in terms of time passage (the scene of Iron Man going to space in a few panels was being used as lightspeed, and there's no real way to quantify that as truth, imo). Sounds impressive, though, if the writer/artists intent was that it happened in seconds or so.
In any case, you and I aren't going to agree on this topic, which is fine. But you're not being a total asshat about it, so there's that.
Originally posted by -Pr-
Starscream that's a warning.Srank, I suggest you stop baiting unless you want one too.
Baiting?
This is a Thor thread. The issue of his speed is relevant to the discussion. I don't think Thor's speed feats put him above street level (and I'm right). The fact that I can say this and that it can't be immediately kiboshed by Thor's strongest supports should vindicates my stance. It's easy to post scans and it would only take a handful, and I've been saying the same thing for years now, and it's gone to length scan wars more than once without a single person being able to definitively prove that Thor has greater than street reflexes.
Get real.
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Baiting?This is a Thor thread. The issue of his speed is relevant to the discussion. I don't think Thor's speed feats put him above street level (and I'm right). The fact that I can say this and that it can't be immediately kiboshed by Thor's strongest supports should vindicates my stance. It's easy to post scans and it would only take a handful, and I've been saying the same thing for years now, and it's gone to length scan wars more than once without a single person being able to definitively prove that Thor has greater than street reflexes.
Get real.
I've asked you once already.
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Baiting?This is a Thor thread. The issue of his speed is relevant to the discussion. I don't think Thor's speed feats put him above street level (and I'm right). The fact that I can say this and that it can't be immediately kiboshed by Thor's strongest supports should vindicates my stance. It's easy to post scans and it would only take a handful, and I've been saying the same thing for years now, and it's gone to length scan wars more than once without a single person being able to definitively prove that Thor has greater than street reflexes.
Get real.
Pretty sure your stance isn't what's baiting, but rather the "Thorbags grasping at straws" comment.
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Fair enough. Panels in themselves are sketchy in terms of time passage (the scene of Iron Man going to space in a few panels was being used as lightspeed, and there's no real way to quantify that as truth, imo). Sounds impressive, though, if the writer/artists intent was that it happened in seconds or so.In any case, you and I aren't going to agree on this topic, which is fine. But you're not being an asshat about it, so there's that.
Well, if its the same seen I'm thinking about Iron Man was out near Jupiter in just a couple of panels wasn't he? The time frame is ambiguous but we can safely assume it was under 35 minutes, which would be ftl.
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Well, if its the same seen I'm thinking about Iron Man was out near Jupiter in just a couple of panels wasn't he? The time frame is ambiguous but we can safely assume it was under 35 minutes, which would be ftl.
Wouldn't know off the top of my head, tbh. It's ambiguous enough for my tastes to prevent me from immeadiately declaring Tony is capable of lightspeed within moments in the atmosphere, which is something I've never seen.
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
High end super sonic at least. I think you could make an argument for sub-luminal speeds depending on the armor.
Here is Iron-man going Mach 8.7
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v282/Ironboy/iron%20man/Invincible20Iron20Man200920page2015.jpg
I guess Starscream M thinks bullets travel Mach 9 or above.
For the record, Starscream, and I actually mean this with your best interests at heart, you wouldn't nearly get as much shit thrown in your face if you at least had the decency and common sense to just admit "I don't know" when it comes to some of the issues which come up about comic books.
Or you could keep doing what you're doing.
Originally posted by JakeTheBankdon't you dare patronize me, you pompous sanctimonious bag of bloviating gas!
For the record, Starscream, and I actually mean this with your best interests at heart, you wouldn't nearly get as much shit thrown in your face if you at least had the decency and common sense to just admit "I don't know" when it comes to some of the issues which come up about comic books.Or you could keep doing what you're doing.
I said right off the bat that I wasn't aware of all of thor's reaction feats and simply asked for some examples of recent ones...you can go back and check my comments
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Wouldn't know off the top of my head, tbh. It's ambiguous enough for my tastes to prevent me from immeadiately declaring Tony is capable of lightspeed within moments in the atmosphere, which is something I've never seen.
Doubt he could do it on earth, his on board computer wouldn't be fast enough to navigate... he'd just crash into shit. In space he can just go balls to the wall over.
Originally posted by Silent MasterTypo.
Here is Iron-man going Mach 8.7http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v282/Ironboy/iron%20man/Invincible20Iron20Man200920page2015.jpg
I guess Starscream M thinks bullets travel Mach 9 or above.
Originally posted by Starscream M
don't you dare patronize me, you pompous sanctimonious bag of bloviating gas!I said right off the bat that I wasn't aware of all of thor's reaction feats and simply asked for some examples of recent ones...you can go back and check my comments
Your lack of knowledge in regards to Thor didn't stop you from claiming that his reaction feats weren't any better than Batman's.
Originally posted by Starscream M
I don't know all of thor's reaction feats....I know on average, he is no more impressive than batman though
Originally posted by carver9
Someone told me that Wonder Woman is at the minimum 5 times stronger than Thor so if that is true, WW wins. Her strength>>>Kurse.
Everytime Thor has fought Gladiator, he is fighting a Pre-Crisis analogue of Superman who never got depowered, and look how well he does against him.
I give Thor a slight edge over Diana in a normal matchup; pure h2h slugfest, I'd say Diana has more than even odds.
