Zeus Vs SHAZAM (W/ROE)

Originally posted by abhilegend
Mordru didn't restored shazam's power. He just restored the damage shazam did to ROE
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Context, jake. When zatanna did that not even phantom stranger and several other mages could do that. That's a high end feat for Zee when she summoned a bound spectre, shazam did it effortlessely. Nope, that's just an excuse that he beat her because she is his daughter. She was the ruler of hell at that time and would beat zeus as well. This isn't going to be a physical fight and he is stronger than blaze who choked black adam with one hand. Pak hates galactus and most of galactus' recent low feats come from him. Heck, denizens of negative zone had upper hand on him in chaos war where all he did was stand still and held open a portal.
You still haven't given any reason to why zeus kicks shazam's ass other than "He gets weaker outside ROE except I've no proof of it". Have any proof that he can't access his energies outside ROE or any low showing? Abscense of proof isn't proof of abscense.

...which seeing as the RoE is the source and place of his power, gave Shazam more of a chance against Spectre than he would have had without Mordru's involvement. So, again, moot point as it's clear Mordru's actions were beneficial to Shazam.

Lol @ pointing out context and accusing me of making excuses though. That's a good one. Superman's one upped Blaze in her realm so I'm not sure why I should think Shazam doing the same thing to his daughter whom he's clearly more powerful than means that Shazam would beat Zeus. You brought up Zeus beating up Hulk and in the same breath dismissed it, presumably because physically beating up Hulk isn't a good feat in your eyes. If that is the case, that's a ridiculous stance to take as is the notion that physicality won't play a role in the fight at all.

Zeus punching Galactus isn't a low feat, nor was Zeus "highly amped" as you claim. Not sure what the point was by bringing that up.

Don't put words in my mouth, especially when I actually said on record that I don't believe Shazam gets weaker outside of the RoE and even challenged the claim Uriel made to the contrary. This isn't the first time you've done it, either, and my patience is wearing thin on the matter.

WTF? The only reason why Shazam fared as well as he did against Spectre was because he was prepared for him and was actively siphoning energy from the RoE. 😬

Why should I prove that Shazam can't amp from the RoE when he's not inside of it when it's clear as day that being inside of the RoE was what made Shazam so powerful to begin with against Spectre in the first place?

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
...which seeing as the RoE is the source and place of his power, gave Shazam more of a chance against Spectre than he would have had without Mordru's involvement. So, again, moot point as it's clear Mordru's actions were beneficial to Shazam.

Lol @ pointing out context and accusing me of making excuses though. That's a good one. Superman's one upped Blaze in her realm so I'm not sure why I should think Shazam doing the same thing to his daughter whom he's clearly more powerful than means that Shazam would beat Zeus. You brought up Zeus beating up Hulk and in the same breath dismissed it, presumably because physically beating up Hulk isn't a good feat in your eyes. If that is the case, that's a ridiculous stance to take as is the notion that physicality won't play a role in the fight at all.

Zeus punching Galactus isn't a low feat, nor was Zeus "highly amped" as you claim. Not sure what the point was by bringing that up.

Don't put words in my mouth, especially when I actually said on record that I don't believe Shazam gets weaker outside of the RoE and even challenged the claim Uriel made to the contrary. This isn't the first time you've done it, either, and my patience is wearing thin on the matter.

WTF? The only reason why Shazam fared as well as he did against Spectre was because he was prepared for him and was actively siphoning energy from the RoE. 😬

Why should I prove that Shazam can't amp from the RoE when he's not inside of it when it's clear as day that being inside of the RoE was what made Shazam so powerful to begin with against Spectre in the first place?

So superman beats her and she is somehow weaker due to it? Nice lowballing jake. I could use it in future references. Anyway beating the sole ruler of hell in hell is no small task despite what you think and where did you pulled this "He's her father so he must be more powerful" crap?

Skyfathers especially wizards don't brawl in character and zeus isn't as strong on average as he was in IH 622. That was him focusing his power in physical means and beating the tar out of hulk. When he isn't amping himself hercules and thor both have hanged with him. On average he isn't stronger than shazam.

It isn't anything mentionable either. Zeus had hundreds of god in him at that moment, how's that not a huge amp? That was a hungry galactus to boot.

I'm not putting any words in your mouth. I'm just asking how's zeus kicking shazam's ass when he's not weaker outside ROE. He's a skyfather anywhere not just in ROE.

Again his amp was lost after the attack on mordru. That was made perfectly clear. That was a weakened shazam against spectre. Stop grasping at straws.

I ask you to prove your claim that zeus would kick shazam's ass outside ROE when a weakened shazam can beat spectre and he doesn't gets weaker outside ROE. You have done nothing but gave your opinion about it. How about some proof to prove your claim?

Heavenly amped by chaos king? Were did you get that? The writer said he was slighty amped

How does slighty amped= heavenly amped?

Just because chaos king was possesing him does not mean he was as powerful as chaos king.

Especially after the writer said it was not a huge amp

Shazam, beyond the ROE they are about equals imo.

Zeus wins. Shazam is overrated. Mordru punked him in his own realm.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Zeus wins. Shazam is overrated. Mordru punked him in his own realm.

Originally posted by abhilegend
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Lying again so soon after returning, eh?

Originally posted by quanchi112
Mordru did play him out. He fizzled out releasing Mordru like an idiot.

Originally posted by abhilegend
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Lying again so soon after returning, eh?

Originally posted by abhilegend

Originally posted by quanchi112
That's exactly what happened, Rain Man.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Zeus wins. Shazam is overrated. Mordru punked him in his own realm.

Originally posted by abhilegend
That's not what you said initially.
So you admit being a lier?

^No, he wasn't. You are a liar and that is once again proved.

Originally posted by abhilegend
^No, he wasn't. You are a liar and that is once again proved.

Originally posted by quanchi112
No, he was punked. By punked that means being an absolute dumbass while expending his power and releasing Mordru into the world. That's called telling it how it is. You need to learn to be objective.

Originally posted by abhilegend
^No, he wasn't. You are a liar and that is once again proved.

Originally posted by abhilegend
😂 @being objective coming from you.

Originally posted by quanchi112
So you disagree with him being punked by Mordru ?

Originally posted by abhilegend
Yeah.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Then your definition of punked is wrong. So much to learn my boy.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Try harder grampa.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I don't have to try harder since I am right. Learn faster, toddler.