Anime Goku vs Thor/Ironman

Originally posted by carver9
Goku as a child outpaced solar energy. Goku has also outpaced beams that made it out of orbit in seconds.

The mods already ruled that Gladiator and Thor never fought. Talk to them about this since again, Thor never fought the real Glads and even if he did, Gladiator fights NOTHING like a DBZ character.

Are you talking about solar flare? All he did was take Roshi's glasses before Tien shot the blast.

That's still not ftl. Not even close actually.

Yeah I doubt PR would agree with that. That was Gladiator from the future of 616. Why is it not gladiator?

He had blurry lines. Thats like DBZ.

Originally posted by carver9
So Akira named the move a light speed move without it really being light speed? Makes sense.

😕

Yeah. It's kungfu dude. They're supposed to sound cool.

Goku gets Mjolnir to the face.

Originally posted by Damborgson
Are you talking about solar flare? All he did was take Roshi's glasses before Tien shot the blast.

That's still not ftl. Not even close actually.

Yeah I doubt PR would agree with that. That was Gladiator from the future of 616. Why is it not gladiator?

He had blurry lines. Thats like DBZ.

Tien was looking right at Goku when the attack went off...that's ftl.

That was Gladiator from a future which means we have no way of knowing if there was a change in power level.

Again, Gladiator doesnf fight like a DBZ character unless you can show me Gladiator shooting a dose of HV and outpacing it?

http://m1143.photobucket.com/albumview/albums/carver9/303411-fat_super.jpg.html?newest=1

Originally posted by Damborgson
Yeah. It's kungfu dude. They're supposed to sound cool.

Why didn't they just name it "the super fast" move.?

Originally posted by carver9
Tien was looking right at Goku when the attack went off...that's ftl.

That was Gladiator from a future which means we have no way of knowing if there was a change in power level.

Again, Gladiator doesnf fight like a DBZ character unless you can show me Gladiator shooting a dose of HV and outpacing it?

http://m1143.photobucket.com/albumview/albums/carver9/303411-fat_super.jpg.html?newest=1

Not if Goku was faster than Tien could see. Or fast enough to get them while he didn't notice. Tien wasn't able to notice that Goku wasn't blinded since he was wearing sunglasses.

Why would there be? The only reason is to save face for Gladiator.

His heat vision is likely faster than those blasts from krillin and Gohan.

Originally posted by carver9
Why didn't they just name it "the super fast" move.?

Originally posted by carver9
In the Anime, Goku is FTL...hell, there is a scene in the Anime where Tien, Yamcha, and Chazu ran around the planet in no time.

Like I said, Hyperion, Gladiator (Thor never fought Gladiator), and Surfer fight no where CLOSE to what Goku fight at and they would get blitzed as well. Teen Goku would stomp Thor based off fts.

I hate to kill DBZ short but Goku took 72 hours to travel 1 million KM. That's with his PL at 5000.

SSJ4 Gogeta might take this whose power level is at least in the tens of trillions.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h3VUVt20wGk&feature=relmfu

Damborgson...if you can show me one DC or Marvel character during combat that can move so fast that their after images is attacking, I would agree with you. Fast forward to 12 min and 20 sec.

Also, fast forward to 14 minutes. Goku outpace the solar flare which was shown on panel. Also, in the Anime, Goku outran lightning. Kid Goku, don't even need to use adult Goku for this.

Originally posted by Based
I hate to kill DBZ short but Goku took 72 hours to travel 1 million KM. That's with his PL at 5000.

SSJ4 Gogeta might take this whose power level is at least in the tens of trillions.

I never denied their flight speed was slow but their reflexes is amazing. Their combat speed is greater than their flight speed unless you can show me scans of them flying at blinding, invisible speed which has been shown multiples of times in combat. You know, the same speed where Super Humans are unable to even detect them with their eyes. I think they hold back during flight to save energy whereas they can disperse it in short burst during combat.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3h5zFQRW6g0

Also, more proof that DBZ characters are above Thor. Here we have two Saiyans at their weakest and one of them lift their hands to destroy the city. The blast was so big that it was seen on the outskirt of space. Look who is beside Nappa that tanked the blast. Vegeta tanked it like he didnt even feel it. Thor wouldn't have tanked it. He would have been BADLY injured or koed. The comparison of DBZ characters to Heralds is outstanding.

Whats "invisible speed"?

And what anime feats are we talking here? Can only remember... GT? Nothing notable comes to mind.

Originally posted by BloodRain
Whats "invisible speed"?

And what anime feats are we talking here? Can only remember... GT? Nothing notable comes to mind.

WTF? Are you telling me DBZ character don't fight at blinding, no one can see speeds? Please tell me you are playing blood rain? PLEASE?

😕

"Whats "invisible speed"?" is me asking what part you were talking about. But nice to see you getting overly defensive over such a simple question.

Originally posted by carver9
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h3VUVt20wGk&feature=relmfu

Damborgson...if you can show me one DC or Marvel character during combat that can move so fast that their after images is attacking, I would agree with you. Fast forward to 12 min and 20 sec.

Also, fast forward to 14 minutes. Goku outpace the solar flare which was shown on panel. Also, in the Anime, Goku outran lightning. Kid Goku, don't even need to use adult Goku for this.

Hey nice I'd been looking for full non AMV episodes. Thanks.

sure: http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/11/117297/2385556-2302747_supermanv2172pg13.jpg

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Stats/ThorSuperspeed10MarvelTeam-Up26.jpg

^ afterimages

You said you'd agree with me. To late to back out now 😄

Like I said, that didn't show him outpacing the flare. Chances are he'd already moved before the attack began. It didn't show him outpacing it.

You should use Adult Goku. It'd probably provide better feats.

Originally posted by carver9
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3h5zFQRW6g0

Also, more proof that DBZ characters are above Thor. Here we have two Saiyans at their weakest and one of them lift their hands to destroy the city. The blast was so big that it was seen on the outskirt of space. Look who is beside Nappa that tanked the blast. Vegeta tanked it like he didnt even feel it. Thor wouldn't have tanked it. He would have been BADLY injured or koed. The comparison of DBZ characters to Heralds is outstanding.

That was a city buster. A flashy one, but the damage doesn't lie. If you wanna compare Thor's high end durability feats to a city buster....the difference is overwhelmingly in Thor's favor.

Also I seriously doubt Nappa's attack was made to also hit his own person. Seeing as how his scouter and vegetas scouters are fine. And they've never displayed the durability to take a city buster and be fine. They were destroyed by an elderly namek.

Your scans isn't the same with what I shower at all.

Lol...the blast was already off when he ran to get the shades. It's right there in front of your face...you are simply ignoring it.

That was more than a City buster. That blast was felt on other sides of the planet. Vegeta tanked the blast. It's a freaking cartoon, of coarse his scouter would be ok. Hulk pants were ok after destroying the dark dimension. Wonderman suit was ok after being rammed into a sun. Freaking comic. Thats not a high end ft by the way since we know Kappa can't hurt Vegeta, that's more of a "please understand the meaning of higher power levels versus lower power levels no matter the width or destruction of said blast".

Lol...Thor would have been knocked the hell out or dead from that blast. Like I said before, I don't need to use adult Goku, the child one who had moon busting power, Nuke tanking durability is enough. Since you want to low ball though, Chazu can beat Thor 10/10 since Wolverine and Mongoose was too fast for him.

Originally posted by BloodRain
"Whats "invisible speed"?" is me asking what part you were talking about. But nice to see you getting overly defensive over such a simple question.

Just remember the scene in Dragon Ball where Kami said "I can't even detect them with my godly eyes". That should help you with your question.

Originally posted by carver9
Your scans isn't the same with what I shower at all.

Lol...the blast was already off when he ran to get the shades. It's right there in front of your face...you are simply ignoring it.

That was more than a City buster. That blast was felt on other sides of the planet. Vegeta tanked the blast. It's a freaking cartoon, of coarse his scouter would be ok. Hulk pants were ok after destroying the dark dimension. Wonderman suit was ok after being rammed into a sun. Freaking comic. Thats not a high end ft by the way since we know Kappa can't hurt Vegeta, that's more of a "please understand the meaning of higher power levels versus lower power levels no matter the width or destruction of said blast".

Lol...Thor would have been knocked the hell out or dead from that blast. Like I said before, I don't need to use adult Goku, the child one who had moon busting power, Nuke tanking durability is enough. Since you want to low ball though, Chazu can beat Thor 10/10 since Wolverine and Mongoose was too fast for him.

I knew you'd back out. 😂 whatever. You ask for blurry afterimages, I give you them, "NO"

No I'm not, I looked at the video. But what you're describing didn't happen.

If it was more than a city buster it would have destroyed more than a city.

Um no. 😐 What attack has it so that you get his by your own blast? Nappa was damaged by arguable weaker ones and so was his gear. Saying it's a cartoon doesn't change that. You're the one who wanted to argue about the anime anyway. Can't take what you don't like and just blot it out.

So what? They only reason Hulk doesn't go around buck naked when he transforms is because Hulk can't always be naked. Scouters were broken on a regular basis.

wtf? 😂 Thor's high end feats>>> Dbz universe. Thor would have been perfectly fine. Nappa would have received Mjolnir to the face.

when did I lowball anything at all? You're wrong. Me saying you're wrong doesn't equal lowballing.

@Damborgson...

I just don't understand why you don't give up. I was hoping when I came back to the Anime section you didn't respond to my post. Sigh.

What Superman did was completely different than what Goku did. I showed you Goku creating after images that was attacking, not Superman moving in a circle fast.

A city buster wouldn't be felt on the other side of a planet or seen in space. Plus looking at the damage, more than a city was destroyed.

I agree, Nappa attack wouldn't destroy him, it was Vegeta that tanked the attack. Now we clearly see the attack hit Vegeta, you bringing up a scouter is making you look foolish, especially since things like that happens consistently in comics. By the way, that happened in the Manga as well...lol.

How was the scouter broken?

Who is bringing up high end fts? Vegeta tanking continent destroying blasts from someone far weaker than him is an average ft. Roshi can destroy a moon, Piccolo with a PL of 350 can destroy moon's with a casual blast. Raditz would laugh at their power output. Thor on average would be KTFO from a moon busting attack...do the math.

Lol...Nappa would kill Thor and easily. Like I said, Thor can't even beat Teenage or probably kid Goku, people like Raditz and Nappa isn't even needed.

You bringing up the scouters being destroyed by an elderly but powerful Namek is lowballing. Remember, those Nameks had a power level of 1000, Nappa didn't even use a fraction of his power to destroy that city since he did not power up until he fought the Z fighter. Destroying Cities and continents was done by people with a power level of 130, so again, that sure as hell wasn't a high ft and that doesn't make up for you throwing off a scouter as proof of Vegeta not tanking that attack.

Kid Goku rapes Thor.

You have a problem with someone replying to you on a VS forum? k....

.....are you kidding me? He was attacking in multiple places. Punching at multiple angles and shooting heat vision at the same time. Thor was creating after images with movement also. Not running around in a circle. But it's cool, I knew you wouldn't keep your word 👆

City buster aren't seen in space lol? yeah they are...Even the most basic nuke ever produced by the united states gave off a light so bright the blind could see it. Weird, I know but it happened.

and how was it only a city buster if it only destroyed a city?

Vegeta was standing right next to him....God Carver this is some heavy reaching.

Why does it make me look foolish? Nappa has been hurt by weaker attacks. And so has his gear. Scouters are gear no? They've been destroyed by weaker attacks also.

The scouters destroyed were by Friezas henchmen, destroyed an elderly namek using a finger beam.

I used that logic before also. Back when I thought DBZ characters were unstoppable. Then I saw the truth. 😛

So what dude? For every high feat where a planetary body is broken, I will find you 10 where attacks that were over 18,000 did not break them. Direct hits by the way. Even Fat Buu's attack only blew away a third of the planet when Goku bounced it back at him.

what in the world are you talking about? I'm saying Nappa doesn't have to tank his own attacks every time he uses them. Is that logical to you? It seems like it would be.

and seeing as how it's the anime, Thor won't wait 10-15 minutes to let a kamehameha get let off. Goku would be charging the get his abstract affecting lighting. Or a simple Hulk dropper. End of story. Even if he did get the attack off, Mjolnir would absorb it. And likely keep absorbing forcibly out of his body until his ki is gone. There's no reason Mjolnir can't absorb that nice glowing aura of power Super Saiyan Goku has. Just like Yakon did.

Kid Goku would have his tail quickly ripped off. Just for the fun of it.

Sigh...

Damborgson...

A blast doesn't have to destroy a planet for it to be as powerful or more powerful than a planetary blast. Use your noggin. Galactus blasts that he was using against Tenebrous that was hurting him didn't even destroy the landscape but I feel safe at saying that those same attacks are more powerful than any attack Surfer can muster.

Thanos attacks on Thor didn't even destroy the room they were fighting in but it hurt him. This is common freaking sense. Tyrant blast against Thanos didn't destroy the landscape they were fighting in but it hurt him. Monarch blast against Prime didn't even destroy the city they were fighting in but Prime admitted it hurt. THINK Damborgson and stop relying on collateral damage so much...dang. It's sad that I got to keep preaching the same things. Frieza withstood a planet exploding on him, he would a planetary+ blast straight to the face but when he fought trunks, trunks vaporized him with a casual blast that didn't even destroy the area they were fighting in. What does that tell you Damborgson? I know what that would tell me since I got common sense. That tells me that the attack Trunks used on Frieza that turned him to dust is>>>¦planetary level attacks since again, Frieza withstood those while injured. I'm literally shaking my head at some of you all...literally.

I don't want you replying to me because you are not making sense.

Superman didn't do what Goku did by the way. I will post more speed fts soon.

Show me scans of a city buster being seen as bright as the one I showed. Also show me a city buster being seen from other sides of the planet. Also, a continent was destroyed, not a city.

The scouters was destroyed by Frieza henchmans that were more powerful than Nappa. Understandable.

I know Vegeta was standing right beside him which means Vegeta tanked the attack. I guess Thor didn't tank Surfer attack since his cape was still on his back. Makes sense. Thor with PG didn't withstand Thanos attack since his costume wasn't damaged. Again, you pointing out a scouter, a plot induced weapon is making you look foolish. Hulk pants survived an attack from Galactus, so Galactus didn't hit him...lol.

Lol at you bringing up Fat Buu. Frieza at his weakest destroyed a planet with his index finger...I feel pretty much safe at saying that every attack Cell and Buu hit Goku with that damaged him (that also didn't destroy a planet) is more powerful than ANYTHING Frieza did during the Namek saga. I know you are better than this Damborgson. Which is more powerful, the blast that Vegeta used to blow cell body in half or Picollo casual blast that destroyed the moon?

Wo said they take 5 minutes to do an attack.? In the Anime, everything is slowed down for us to see. Even though it takes 5 minutes in the Anime, to them, its only a second.