Originally posted by carver9
Sigh...Damborgson...
A blast doesn't have to destroy a planet for it to be as powerful or more powerful than a planetary blast. Use your noggin. Galactus blasts that he was using against Tenebrous that was hurting him didn't even destroy the landscape but I feel safe at saying that those same attacks are more powerful than any attack Surfer can muster.
Thanos attacks on Thor didn't even destroy the room they were fighting in but it hurt him. This is common freaking sense. Tyrant blast against Thanos didn't destroy the landscape they were fighting in but it hurt him. Monarch blast against Prime didn't even destroy the city they were fighting in but Prime admitted it hurt. THINK Damborgson and stop relying on collateral damage so much...dang. It's sad that I got to keep preaching the same things. Frieza withstood a planet exploding on him, he would a planetary+ blast straight to the face but when he fought trunks, trunks vaporized him with a casual blast that didn't even destroy the area they were fighting in. What does that tell you Damborgson? I know what that would tell me since I got common sense. That tells me that the attack Trunks used on Frieza that turned him to dust is>>>¦planetary level attacks since again, Frieza withstood those while injured. I'm literally shaking my head at some of you all...literally.
I don't want you replying to me because you are not making sense.
Superman didn't do what Goku did by the way. I will post more speed fts soon.
Show me scans of a city buster being seen as bright as the one I showed. Also show me a city buster being seen from other sides of the planet. Also, a continent was destroyed, not a city.
The scouters was destroyed by Frieza henchmans that were more powerful than Nappa. Understandable.
I know Vegeta was standing right beside him which means Vegeta tanked the attack. I guess Thor didn't tank Surfer attack since his cape was still on his back. Makes sense. Thor with PG didn't withstand Thanos attack since his costume wasn't damaged. Again, you pointing out a scouter, a plot induced weapon is making you look foolish. Hulk pants survived an attack from Galactus, so Galactus didn't hit him...lol.
Lol at you bringing up Fat Buu. Frieza at his weakest destroyed a planet with his index finger...I feel pretty much safe at saying that every attack Cell and Buu hit Goku with that damaged him (that also didn't destroy a planet) is more powerful than ANYTHING Frieza did during the Namek saga. I know you are better than this Damborgson. Which is more powerful, the blast that Vegeta used to blow cell body in half or Picollo casual blast that destroyed the moon?
Wo said they take 5 minutes to do an attack.? In the Anime, everything is slowed down for us to see. Even though it takes 5 minutes in the Anime, to them, its only a second.
Dude, those attacks were not hitting the planet. They were hitting the opponents. I can easily find multiple showings in the manga alone of 18,000+ attacks hitting a planet that didn't destroy it.
You don't get it. Or you do and maybe you won't admit it. I
Why would they have destroyed the room? Why would Tyrant destroy the landscape? The Hell? Yes it did. But even so it wasn't his purpose. It was to hurt prime. and he achieved it.
The only sad things thats here is you Carve m'boy. That attack was released in the air. Why would it destroy the landscape? See what I mean by you being sad? On the other hand, we have Fat buu's attacks directly hitting the Earth and only taking a third of it. We have Gotenks firing mutiple missles directly at the Earth and causing only a crater. We have Vegeta causing en explosion so large it was seen in space and all it did was create a crater. All of which touched the Earth.
No you don't like it because I do make sense. And you'll never admit it because you've ran your mouth off for to long. Yet you don't realize you'd be more respected if you just acknowledge you're wrong. But if you really dislike it then put me on ignore.
Why would I give you feats when you ignore them? You're a sore loser no doubt, but you still lose in the end.
or anther response would be this:
Originally posted by carver9
I'm not posting fts because you should know this stuff
told you I'd use it.
No, the henchmans scouters were destroyed by the elderly Namek. The henchman didn't do it.
Lol Carver....you are so ridiculous sometimes. I only like it when I make Abhi squirm like this, not you.
Your argument is basically that Nappa strikes himself whenever he fires off his blast. I'd assume Vegeta standing next to him is also protected by the blast. Unless you think Vegeta would be happy getting hit by his teammate. No matter the damage, Vegeta wouldn't tolerate it.
See I already responded to that. You're just repeating a dead point.
You're missing the point. A blast from fat buu hit the planet. Directly. And according to Babidi, it only took a third of it with him.
Um I'd say the blast that shot out into space and from the scale was about the size of the moon iirc. Don't see how that helps your point since that didn't hit the Earth either. Otherwise it would have blown it apart easily.
Dude stop lol. Just stop. They're talking. And watching and having conversations. None of that happens in a seconds. It happens in minutes. The reporters at the cell games talked for a good while when Goku and Cell were going at it. And they talked when Goku fired off his 5 minute long charged kamehameha. And they saw it happen. That wasn't at super speed.
Not to mention you forgot to respond to this part:
Originally posted by Damborgson
Goku would be charging then get his abstract affecting lighting. Or a simple Hulk dropper. End of story. Even if he did get the attack off, Mjolnir would absorb it. And likely keep absorbing forcibly out of his body until his ki is gone. There's no reason Mjolnir can't absorb that nice glowing aura of power Super Saiyan Goku has. Just like Yakon did.
game set and match.
Originally posted by carver9
By the way, Thor isn't tagging Goku once.
Goku better hope Thor tags him and ends it right there. Or he brings out the lightning and vaporizes him.
So Damborgson... I'm going to ask this just to see if I need to continue this. Could Roshi kill Nappa or Namek saga Goku that fought Frieza (before going Super Saiyan)? Can Piccolo, the same one that destroy a moon with a casual blast kill Frieza? If I show you Galactus attack hitting the ground not causing any planetary destruction, this will make you look foolish. You do know this right?
Lol...your topic is backwards as hell. First you are basing things off of collateral damage and then you are saying we should ignore it. Make up your mind...DA**. Like I've stated before, a planet doesnt need to explode in order for a blast to be more powerful than planetary.
Example...
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff240/Branlactus/Fights%202/Thanos/Thanos0509.jpg
Galactus tax himself on Thanos shields. The room is still intact, nothing is exploding but we know that since Thanos is being hurt from it and Galactus is taxing himself, the attack is powerful. Now if we look at collateral damage (which damborgson is trying to do), Nappa attack>>>Galactus. That throws collateral damage out the window.
Ok, let's get to what great debaters know. A). If frieza, Nappa, Raditz, along with other hero's and villains in DBZ can tank moon busting power but they are killed or damaged by a blast that didn't even cause a crater, people with common sense, what does that tell us? The blast had to have been more damaging than a moon busting attack. What else does that tell us? That DBZ blasts isn't all about Collateral damage or we wouldn't have attacks like the special beam canon or the destructo disk. Hell, there are some kamehameha blast that didn't destroy the planet or a city but was more powerful than anything Nappa has done since it damaged Cell or Buu. Again, common sense.
More scans on the way with Galactus vs collateral damage. Hahahahaha.
Well Carver seeing as how you ignored my post in order to keep rambling nonsense I guess I get to ignore yours?
That youd even compare someone with such fine control over his power and in a league completely seperate to goku is ridiculous. And your attempts at strawman dissapoint me more than they irritate.
This has stopped being a debate and is now you just desperately trying to get a last word. So you can have it. Enjoy.
But blinding yourself, shutting your ears, and stamping your feet doesnt change what is. At the end of the day you're still wrong. And im pretty sure you know it. I should get used to this from you though I guess.
Lol...and DBZ characters doesn't have fine control of their energy? Capable of turning their blast into homing missiles, able to use to to amp their stats making them physically taller.. use to matter manipulate, destructo disk, able to use it to as a powerful hurricane...home in only on humans and shoot them directly in the heart. I can go on for a while providing everything a DBZ character can do with their KI. Damborgson, like really, are you familiar with DBZ?
Goku was helpless when Yakon was sucking his energy. Shit they always are when their ki gets drained. They only manage to survive because the drainers couldn't handle all their power. I don't see that happening to Mjolnir.
If thats what you guys are even talking about.
Edit Well not really helpless because he could probably fight but I don't recall having ever seen them resist getting drained.
Originally posted by Zack Fair
Goku was helpless when Yakon was sucking his energy. Shit they always are when their ki gets drained. They only manage to survive because the drainers couldn't handle all their power. I don't see that happening to Mjolnir.If thats what you guys are even talking about.
[b]Edit
Well not really helpless because he could probably fight but I don't recall having ever seen them resist getting drained. [/B]
Well Yakon ws to powerful to beat as a non super saiyan so he would've lost straight up in a fight, but the technique he used to overload Yakon wouldn't both Mjolnir one bit. Goku would drop easy.
So DB characters are FTL only within 1 meter?
Originally posted by carver9
Just remember the scene in Dragon Ball where Kami said "I can't even detect them with my godly eyes". That should help you with your question.
Originally posted by BloodRain
So DB characters are FTL only within 1 meter?Dont think Kami's eyes have feats though. He's just your normal Namek past his prime.
There you go again. I don't care what fts Kami eyes have. You asked for a time where DBZ characters completely vanished...I gave you one from regular Dragon Ball. It also happened again during Krillin and Goku fight...also King Piccolo and Goku fight. Too much to name.
