Blue Marvel Challenge

So in Blue Marvel's limited appearances he seemed very impressive & powerful. (I really like the character and wish they do more with him). Anyway it's pretty clear that he is one of Marvels top guns. So for this thread I'm curious to see how KMC thinks he would do against the other top heralds in comics.

This ISN'T A GAUNTLET. just want to know how BM does against each opponent.

1. Thor
2. Superman
3. Hulk
4. Captain Marvel
5. Nova Prime
6. Hal Jordan
7. Silver Surfer
8. Wonder Woman
9. Gladiator
10. Martian Manhunter

How would he do in a fight against these guys?

They all beat him.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
They all beat him.

Pretty much, yeah.

Some fights are closer than others, and some I can see Blue Marvel pulling out an upset, but for the majority, they should all beat him.

So a guy who one shorted Sentry can't beat any of these guys?

Sounds racist

Originally posted by byrdgang21
So a guy who one shorted Sentry can't beat any of these guys?

Sounds racist

😂

Most of these guys, under the same conditions, could flash KO Sentry as he was portrayed in that mini. You also have Namor directly comparing his strength to Hulk and Thor (not above it, which is important) and the fact that his creator clearly intended Blue Marvel to be at the top tier level, not above it.

That in turn forces us to look at feats in addition to intent and overall portrayal. To that end, he's not going to beat anyone here for the majority. I don't see him being stomped or beaten easily, though.

Nothing but racism.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
😂

Most of these guys, under the same conditions, could flash KO Sentry as he was portrayed in that mini. You also have Namor directly comparing his strength to Hulk and Thor (not above it, which is important) and the fact that his creator clearly intended Blue Marvel to be at the top tier level, not above it.

That in turn forces us to look at feats in addition to intent and overall portrayal. To that end, he's not going to beat anyone here for the majority. I don't see him being stomped or beaten easily, though.

So you're not giving him any wins soley on lack of feats?

I really wish they would bring him back. He seems to have so much potential.

Originally posted by byrdgang21
So a guy who one shorted Sentry can't beat any of these guys?

Sounds racist

He managed a brief BFR and Sentry came back the next paged and tko'd him. He has 5 appearances... and none of them have the feats to suggest he could take the clear majority against any of these guys,

Originally posted by byrdgang21
So you're not giving him any wins soley on lack of feats?

I really wish they would bring him back. He seems to have so much potential.

He does have good feats such as beating Anti-Man, his fight with the Mighty Avengers, and beating King Hyperion, and it's clear he's meant to be a physical peer to the likes of Hulk and Thor, but that doesn't mean he can beat them. I have no doubt he could give everyone on the list a fight, possibly even a stalemate, but I don't see him outright defeating anyone.

He is a good and well thought out new character, though.

Originally posted by Mindset

LOL

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
He does have good feats such as beating Anti-Man, his fight with the Mighty Avengers, and beating King Hyperion, and it's clear he's meant to be a physical peer to the likes of Hulk and Thor, but that doesn't mean he can beat them. I have no doubt he could give everyone on the list a fight, possibly even a stalemate, but I don't see him outright defeating anyone.

He is a good and well thought out new character, though.

Idk why they wouldn't at the least have him join the avengers. He can be their big gun and replace Sentry. Also with his military background, they may be able to use that to create a nice dynamic with him & Cap. There is really so much they can do with him. And with the way Thor has been treated lately the Avengers can definitely use another big gun.

Originally posted by byrdgang21
Idk why they wouldn't at the least have him join the avengers. He can be their big gun and replace Sentry. Also with his military background, they may be able to use that to create a nice dynamic with him & Cap. There is really so much they can do with him. And with the way Thor has been treated lately the Avengers can definitely use another big gun.

He was used briefly in the Heroic Age by his creator, Grevioux (sp?), but outside of that, not much has happened.

I'd like to see him further fleshed out on his own, though it's more likely if we do see more of him it will be on a team.

He'll probably show up and get Worf'd by the next Superman expy Marvel creates/

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
He'll probably show up and get Worf'd by the next Superman expy Marvel creates/

Probably.

I have no doubt that his purpose on a team would be to look impressive and formidable for a few issues to establish him as a top tier powerhouse, only to get Worf'd by the threat of the month. And I don't think he'd sustain an ongoing on his own.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
He was used briefly in the Heroic Age by his creator, Grevioux (sp?), but outside of that, not much has happened.

I'd like to see him further fleshed out on his own, though it's more likely if we do see more of him it will be on a team.

Yea I know but that was just a feature. I'd like to see him in a more permanent role. I agree with you that he should be featured as a solo character but I highly doubt Marvel would do that

At the moment, yeah he would lose the majority to pretty much all these guys, some more than others though not by stompings.

If they do bring him back they probably need to tone him down a bit. The author kind of made him to much of a 12 year-old fanboy's character (in fact I think he created him while he was a kid, and it shows). Making a character who is as strong as Thor or Hulk, can fly and has antimatter powers etc, and he's a top genius and scientist, and he's a decorated military guy, and he's friends with the Watcher, and Sub-Mariner, and he was an important historical figure, and he was friends with the President, and he beats down King Hyperion - all in his first two appearances - it's just too much. I'm not surprised they haven't used him again outside of What If. There's almost nowhere for a character like that to go.

Actually these days he'd probably beat Thor like everyone else does.

Originally posted by basilisk
At the moment, yeah he would lose the majority to pretty much all these guys, some more than others though not by stompings.

If they do bring him back they probably need to tone him down a bit. The author kind of made him to much of a 12 year-old fanboy's character (in fact I think he created him while he was a kid, and it shows). Making a character who is as strong as Thor or Hulk, can fly and has antimatter powers etc, and he's a top genius and scientist, and he's a decorated military guy, and he's friends with the Watcher, and Sub-Mariner, and he was an important historical figure, and he was friends with the President, and he beats down King Hyperion - all in his first two appearances - it's just too much. I'm not surprised they haven't used him again outside of What If. There's almost nowhere for a character like that to go.

Actually these days he'd probably beat Thor like everyone else does.

True. He beats Gladiator for sure though 😱

Originally posted by basilisk
At the moment, yeah he would lose the majority to pretty much all these guys, some more than others though not by stompings.

If they do bring him back they probably need to tone him down a bit. The author kind of made him to much of a 12 year-old fanboy's character (in fact I think he created him while he was a kid, and it shows). Making a character who is as strong as Thor or Hulk, can fly and has antimatter powers etc, and he's a top genius and scientist, and he's a decorated military guy, and he's friends with the Watcher, and Sub-Mariner, and he was an important historical figure, and he was friends with the President, and he beats down King Hyperion - all in his first two appearances - it's just too much. I'm not surprised they haven't used him again outside of What If. There's almost nowhere for a character like that to go.

Actually these days he'd probably beat Thor like everyone else does.

That's really not that much different than Sentry having every power imaginable. They should just bring BM & Sentry/Void back and just have Bob be a straight up Villain & have BM be his main adversary.

Blue Marvel was an interesting character whose existence didn't drastically alter or shit on other character's established canon like Sentry did. And Marvel was never intended to be > than the top tiers in comics, just a peer among them. Sentry, on the other hand, was intended to be the single greatest hero of all time and got ridiculous feats to attempt to justify it.