Originally posted by carver9
My posts about BM fts wasn't directed at you or against Superman since I think both are equals strength wise. I just consider BM more powerful based on what he has shown.
Adam is strong no matter what people think. He would do well against any of the guys in this thread, and held back against the Avengers and tried to talk it out with them, while they assaulted him. That team wasn't comprised of a bunch of weaklings. Sentry, Wonder Man, and Ms. Marvel together are a force to be reckoned with, and I could easily see that team pushing to outright defeating most of the characters in this thread.
Originally posted by Stoic
Adam is strong no matter what people think. He would do well against any of the guys in this thread, and held back against the Avengers and tried to talk it out with them, while they assaulted him. That team wasn't comprised of a bunch of weaklings. Sentry, Wonder Man, and Ms. Marvel together are a force to be reckoned with, and I could easily see that team pushing to outright defeating most of the characters in this thread.
Originally posted by abhilegend
A young namor beat a more impressive team. Sentry, simon, Ares and Iron man. He was beating Ares and Wonder man together and two shotted sentry.
Yeah and Sentry ripped Ares apart, and out muscled an older Namor. Why bring up poorly written books to make a point? Adam is also more powerful than Namor, as was the Sentry, King Hyperion, and Anti Man.
Yeah, Antiman worked the Avengers and BM was the only one capable of stopping him. King Hyperion is a beast as well and BM dropped him with a couple of well placed blows. Sentry got dropped by him with a well placed blow. BM is powerful as h*** and abhi, I don't care what you think I think aout Supes, outside of lifting fts, BM has proven he is on his level, hell, his punching power is freaking insane.
Originally posted by Stoic
Yeah and Sentry ripped Ares apart, and out muscled an older Namor. Why bring up poorly written books to make a point? Adam is also more powerful than Namor, as was the Sentry, King Hyperion, and Anti Man.
Originally posted by carver9
Yeah, Antiman worked the Avengers and BM was the only one capable of stopping him. King Hyperion is a beast as well and BM dropped him with a couple of well placed blows. Sentry got dropped by him with a well placed blow. BM is powerful as h*** and abhi, I don't care what you think I think aout Supes, outside of lifting fts, BM has proven he is on his level, hell, his punching power is freaking insane.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Voidsentry you mean. FYI namor took many punches from voidsentry and was just fine. That's a poor excuse "it was a poorly written book". Sentry at that time was getting worked by hercules and she hulk. He is, but he isn't much stronger than namor if at all.
Stop talking. You are again talking which you don't know much. Its just your love for superman clones. Oh and king hyperion broke his hand punching a depowered juggernaut.
Was king Hyperion depowered during that battle with Cain? Also Cain wasn't that weak at that time. Adam by all rights is a heavy weight. Marvel has got to give him more ink time, because the few feats that he did have weren't bad at all.
Voidsentry would have destroyed any version of Namor, and the idea that you bring this up confirms your inability to debate in a rational way.
Originally posted by Stoic
Was king Hyperion depowered during that battle with Cain? Also Cain wasn't that weak at that time. Adam by all rights is a heavy weight. Marvel has got to give him more ink time, because the few feats that he did have weren't bad at all.Voidsentry would have destroyed any version of Namor, and the idea that you bring this up confirms your inability to debate in a rational way.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Nope. He however beat cain badly after that. Strange comic. I know BM is supposed to be a heavyweight but his lack of feats hurt him. Could voidsentry destroy namor with his molecular manipulation as shown with Ares? Sure. Can he do it physically? Not so sure. Did he do it in actual comic? Nope and none of your denial would change it.
Anti Man was a huge threat alone. Namor would not be able to defeat Sentry if he was going at him the way that he went at Adam. These are clearly two different tiers and levels of power. Sentry was able to punk Terrax with a smile, and I wouldn't lay odds on Namor beating a well written Terrax.
For some reason plot has always served to depower or even the playing field. It's happened to Superman, Hulk, Thor, Sentry, and any other powerful character. Using low showings and ignoring the high ones is horrible reasoning, because most people know that Namor (any Namor) would be wrecked by the Sentry. That Invaders cross was horribly written. Unless of course you believe that teen Namor would have done better than the Sentry when he fought the Hulk.
Adam's punches alone are lethal, and he can amp those punches with anti matter. I can't see how he wouldn't give any of the guys in this thread a heavy workout.
Wait a sec, when did it state the Sentry ripped Ares apart using molecular manipulation?
Originally posted by abhilegend
Nope. He however beat cain badly after that. Strange comic. I know BM is supposed to be a heavyweight but his lack of feats hurt him. Could voidsentry destroy namor with his molecular manipulation as shown with Ares? Sure. Can he do it physically? Not so sure. Did he do it in actual comic? Nope and none of your denial would change it.
Stop acting like Namor is some type of weak sauce. Looking at his fts, he would give Superman a fight as well and denying this is ignoring what Namor has done.
Originally posted by carver9
Stop acting like Namor is some type of weak sauce. Looking at his fts, he would give Superman a fight as well and denying this is ignoring what Namor has done.
No namor really wouldn't unless Superman was written down to his level. one dose of HV is all that it would take for Namor to call it quits. Just go back and check out what a warehouse fire did to a copy of him during the Exiles arc. Namor is not in this tier of power.
Originally posted by Stoic
Anti Man was a huge threat alone. Namor would not be able to defeat Sentry if he was going at him the way that he went at Adam. These are clearly two different tiers and levels of power. Sentry was able to punk Terrax with a smile, and I wouldn't lay odds on Namor beating a well written Terrax.For some reason plot has always served to depower or even the playing field. It's happened to Superman, Hulk, Thor, Sentry, and any other powerful character. Using low showings and ignoring the high ones is horrible reasoning, because most people know that Namor (any Namor) would be wrecked by the Sentry. That Invaders cross was horribly written. Unless of course you believe that teen Namor would have done better than the Sentry when he fought the Hulk.
Adam's punches alone are lethal, and he can amp those punches with anti matter. I can't see how he wouldn't give any of the guys in this thread a heavy workout.
Wait a sec, when did it state the Sentry ripped Ares apart using molecular manipulation?
Originally posted by carver9
Stop acting like Namor is some type of weak sauce. Looking at his fts, he would give Superman a fight as well and denying this is ignoring what Namor has done.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Who is saying otherwise? However BM got an advantage over him that he was powered up by anti matter too. BM flash koed the same emo sentry which everyone else was beating upon. These guys are all durable enough to take a couple of anti-energy amped shots. In a what if, which showed what would've happened if ares had refused to go to asgard. And yes what ifs are canon to the point of divergence.
You're using a What If comic to replace the scene where Bob rips Ares apart with strength alone? Are you serious?
Sentry was fighting Adam to the best of his ability, and he was owned with one good punch. To say otherwise is a simple downplay of the showing. Pretty low tactic TBH.
They could take a few, but what if he decides to keep hitting them in a stunned condition? Adam is on the level, Hal would likely get his face punched in once those shields are compromised.
Really Abhi, you should try to give credit where it's due. In Adams short run, he has done nothing that should allow anyone to give him a low grade, or push him down to Firelord, or Terrax's low to mid Herald tier.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Who is saying otherwise? However BM got an advantage over him that he was powered up by anti matter too. BM flash koed the same emo sentry which everyone else was beating upon. These guys are all durable enough to take a couple of anti-energy amped shots. In a what if, which showed what would've happened if ares had refused to go to asgard. And yes what ifs are canon to the point of divergence.
Stop talking.
The divergence wasn't at the start of the comic like with most what ifs?
Originally posted by Stoic
You're using a What If comic to replace the scene where Bob rips Ares apart with strength alone? Are you serious?Sentry was fighting Adam to the best of his ability, and he was owned with one good punch. To say otherwise is a simple downplay of the showing. Pretty low tactic TBH.
They could take a few, but what if he decides to keep hitting them in a stunned condition? Adam is on the level, Hal would likely get his face punched in once those shields are compromised.
Really Abhi, you should try to give credit where it's due. In Adams short run, he has done nothing that should allow anyone to give him a low grade, or push him down to Firelord, or Terrax's low to mid Herald tier.