Originally posted by JakeTheBankIn all fairness, Prime was very, very weak when his HV pierced Superman-- which says a lot, imo.
Zod's heat vision went through Superman...
Either way, I recently saw an AvX cover, on which Cap's shield can be seen soaking a blast from PF Cyclops. If there's any truth to that in the issue itself, then Prime's HV might not be effective. But to be fair(again), Prime's HV has also busted through GL auto-shields, and even Guardian shielding-- not to mention all the others he's killed with it... His HV is potent as shit.
Originally posted by JakeTheBankNot in the same manner as Prime's. You actually see a struggle of it.
Zod's heat vision went through Superman...
Originally posted by Silent Master
The shield has taken hits from Mjolnir and the Hulk without a scratch, that means it's durability is over 999 trillion times more powerful than their attacks. I doubt his HV is 999 trillion times more powerful than The Hulk/Thor.
Now Prime's hv went through Superman without a struggle (unlike like Zod's hv) in such a way it appeared as Superman was a ghost. That implies how many times it was over Superman's durability.
In other words, failure to damage doesn't imply how much more is needed in order to damage and while damaging something in such a way does determine the level of attack.
Good try though
Originally posted by carver9
WTF, Zod heat vision went through Superman just as easily as Prime heat vision did. Have you seen this H1 or are you just guessing.?
Originally posted by h1a8
Not in the same manner as Prime's. You actually see a struggle of it.Failure to damage in itself doesn't imply the level in which to damage.
For, example I can squeeze and egg with 99% of the force required to bust it yet there won't be a scratch on it. Adding a mere 1% would bust the egg.Now Prime's hv went through Superman without a struggle (unlike like Zod's hv) in such a way it appeared as Superman was a ghost. That implies how many times it was over Superman's durability.
In other words, failure to damage doesn't imply how much more is needed in order to damage and while damaging something in such a way does determine the level of attack.
Good try though
Good for the egg, but the shield's durability has been proven to be over 999 trillion times greater than Thor/Hulk's damage output.
Can you prove that Superboy prime's hv is that powerful?
Originally posted by JakeTheBankCorrect answer. 👆
Shield clears.
Originally posted by carver9Different Zod.
Zod>Prime. He actually did something Prime never did, and that was break Superman jaw with a single hit.😉
Originally posted by Galan007
^ Do you have the scans, and/or an issue number of the Zod HV instance? I remember seeing it a few times, but can't recall where.
Originally posted by ODG
Prime would only need to be weakened to the point where he was as strong as Phantom Zone Zod:
Originally posted by Galan007
In all fairness, Prime was very, very weak when his HV pierced Superman-- which says a lot, imo.Either way, I recently saw an AvX cover, on which Cap's shield can be seen soaking a blast from PF Cyclops.
Yeah Prime was weak. Makes you think about the level his HV is really on at normal levels.
About AvX, Scott was most likely holding back like he did against Glads. The Phoenix aura didn't flare up + Xavier was standing near Cap.
Originally posted by Silent Master
Good for the egg, but the shield's durability has been proven to be over 999 trillion times greater than Thor/Hulk's damage output.Can you prove that Superboy prime's hv is that powerful?
No it hasn't, remember the egg example disproves it. Lack of damage doesn't show how much more you need (unless you describe how it feels).
Yes I have because it is how you damage something that shows the level