Phoenix Namor vs Voidtry

Originally posted by Mindset
Ok so he either can't or won't.

Doesn't change anything.

Not really because fighting the Voidtry is a bit different to fighting who the P5 would call misguided "heroes". It would be within Namors character to kill or defeat an evil being to the best of his ability. Destroying evil wouldnt be against Cyclops mandate, or Namors personality.

So wont doesnt come into it.

As for cant, Namors displayed more raw power with the tk levitation of the tankers and the TK control of the water in his attack on Wakanda

We don't know what Namor can do beside what he has done.

Originally posted by Mindset
We don't know what Namor can do beside what he has done.

Thats true, we know he has a tremendous level of TK, being able to levitate millions of tons of weight and with enough physical strength to snap the limbs of a hulk. He demonstrated more raw power than Voidtry ever did.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Thats true, we know he has a tremendous level of TK, being able to levitate millions of tons of weight and with enough physical strength to snap the limbs of a hulk. He demonstrated more raw power than Voidtry ever did.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Thats true, we know he has a tremendous level of TK, being able to levitate millions of tons of weight and with enough physical strength to snap the limbs of a hulk. He demonstrated more raw power than Voidtry ever did.

He also disintegrated Loki, which I'd put above levitating millions of tons.

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
A weaker Void snapped Grulk like a twig... twice.

He also disintegrated Loki, which I'd put above levitating millions of tons.

Why was it a weaker Void? Was some power-up mentioned or referred to on panel to make Voidtry more powerful?

Furthermore how would incinerating a sub class 100 Asgardian be a greater showing of power than levitating millions of tons? 😕

Magneto has incinerated beings stronger and more durable than Classic Rogue (class 50)

Magneto is leagues below a member of the P5 😬

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Why was it a weaker Void? Was some power-up mentioned or referred to on panel to make Voidtry more powerful?

Furthermore how would incinerating a sub class 100 Asgardian be a greater showing of power than levitating millions of tons? 😕

Magneto has incinerated beings stronger and more durable than Classic Rogue (class 50)

Magneto is leagues below a member of the P5 😬

Funny you mention Magneto considering all his feats of levitating millions of tons. Asteroid M chief among them.
Yet, do you think Magneto lifting this sort of thing is better than actually beating a very powerful character?

Hell, Thor and Herc were throwing the planet out of orbit, yet Thor can't just easily kill Loki.

Disintegrating Loki, who's notoriously hard to kill and has far greater control over his molecules than someone overtly more durable than the likes of Thor or Hercules, is a great feat, even if Loki planned to die.

Didn't Magneto pull a planet sized bullet speeding away from Earth back?

Originally posted by Mindset
Didn't Magneto pull a planet sized bullet speeding away from Earth back?

Levitating millions or even billions of tons isn't too impressive compared to even Magneto.

It's a shame he's being written down in this series considering how the Magneto character has done against Jeanix in the past... but alas... better... story... ?

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
It's a shame he's being written down in this series considering how the Magneto character has done against Jeanix in the past... but alas... better... story... ?

Originally posted by zopzop
What did he do to Jean/Phoenix?

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
Because he took more serum before Seige.

Funny you mention Magneto considering all his feats of levitating millions of tons. Asteroid M chief among them.
Yet, do you think Magneto lifting this sort of thing is better than actually beating a very powerful character?

Hell, Thor and Herc were throwing the planet out of orbit, yet Thor can't just easily kill Loki.

Nothing as heavy as dozens of tankers each no doubt weighing 100s of thousands of tons or the volume of ocean Namor was moving around.

Thor cant or wont kill Loki?

Theyre brothers and as Thors distress at Lokis death and his hand in resurrecting him show he loves his brother no matter what.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Disintegrating Loki, who's notoriously hard to kill and has far greater control over his molecules than someone overtly more durable than the likes of Thor or Hercules, is a great feat, even if Loki planned to die.

When has Loki demonstrated greater durability than Thor or Hercules?

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Nothing as heavy as dozens of tankers each no doubt weighing 100s of thousands of tons or the volume of ocean Namor was moving around.

Thor cant or wont kill Loki?

Theyre brothers and as Thors distress at Lokis death and his hand in resurrecting him show he loves his brother no matter what.

Sure he can suck his soul, but he's never simply blasted Loki and disintegrated him.

Find it funny you're using the can't or won't arguing considering Namor's lack of... what do you call them... feats.

Originally posted by Mindset
Didn't Magneto pull a planet sized bullet speeding away from Earth back?

Wasnt Earth sized but it was big enough to do pose a threat to the planet. Furthermore it was a hollow shell of alien metal who's to say how much it weighed. It wasnt too big for Kitty Pryde to be able to phase in its entirety.

There are planets smaller than Earth.

How does Kitty being able to phase it change anything?

Great feat for her.

It was Jean Claude Van Damme'd huge

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
Taking this at absolute truth (because I'd rather not argue a massive asteroid is heavier than what Namor did), it's still not better than the planet bullet.

Sure he can suck his soul, but he's never simply blasted Loki and disintegrated him.

Find it funny you're using the can't or won't arguing considering Namor's lack of... what do you call them... feats.

It was a hollow shell of alien metal that Kitty Pryde was able to effect in its entirety.

I'll have to go back and look at some old x-men issues because i dont remember Asteroid M being that big.

As it stands Magneto a being considerably weaker than a fifth of the PF can casually incinerate a being stronger and more durable than classic Rogue. Casually.

Incinerating Lokis physical form is not that impressive, espcially when it all seemed part of Lokis plan.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
When has Loki demonstrated greater durability than Thor or Hercules?

In terms of blunt force trauma and pain threshold, Loki is inferior to Thor and Hercules. However, given his nature as a shape shifter, he displays a far greater control over his molecules and physical form than either of them. Sure, you could knock out Loki easier than you could Thor/Herc. But considering Loki has had his head cut off and reattached it with no qualms, permanently killing him is going to be extremely difficult.