Originally posted by -Pr-
People bought books with Prime in them hoping to see someone smack the shit out of him, not because he was an intellectually stimulating villain.Honestly, you're crazy.
Uuuummm, people bought Prime book because he was a great character. You have GOT to be playing Pr. You can't be serious.
Lolololol...why am I crazy Pr? Because I like a character 90% of the people on the forum probably likes?
Originally posted by Diesldude
This utter fail because blue you are either ignorant of sbp's powers or lie intentionally so that those who don't know will begin to believe as you want then to.. Sb needed just a touch of light on his fingertips to overpower a half a dozen high heralds. Now think about that, how much will rulk need to absorb when all SBP needs to get to full power is to expose his fingertips to sunlight. You're luck I am wasting my time with a response for you but all it deserves is an LOL.
If you really felt all my response deserved was some LOL emoticon, you'd have put one here and been done with it, not sent me a message that you even took the time to edit after the fact. Nor, were the post baseless, would you be concerned of other people being convinced of the argument.
As it is, you have no punch coming, I put forth that the writer Jeph Loeb would frame this encounter one way, I put forth that the writer Greg Pak would frame it another. If you want to counter that, you need to give good reason why you think they would not.
Especially given how Loeb and Pak actually structured their Red Hulk and World Breaker Hulk runs, respectively.
Fact is, under Jeph Loeb, Red Hulk took out a lot of people that he actually does not, on his own intrinsic strength levels, match up with.
Hulk himself for starters.
Twice, if memory serves correctly.
Thor.
Abomination.
You tell me that Superboy Prime took out several heralds.
Red Hulk took out Silver Surfer, the being the herald class is NAMED after, and took out one or two more of Galactus's servants for good measure.
Rulk didn't do this because he's just that powerful on his own.
He took them out because he has the ability to absorb the energies of or contained in an opponent.
In Hulk's case, he absorbed Hulk's gamma energy.
In Surfer's case, he absorbed Surfer's cosmic energy.
I doubt that he can absorb magical energy, I would guess Rulk was able to take down Thor in his famous "Moonshot" victory not only for good planning and the sheer element of surprise but also owing to the energy Rulk had previously absorbed from Hulk.
But he would go on to defeat Hulk at least a 2nd time by taking virtually all his gamma energy away from him.
Then, for good measure, Rulk began absorbing the pure sound energy of the villain known as Klaw.
Gamma, Cosmic, Sound.
If Rulk can absorb all those forms of energy, seemingly at will, if his general ability is, in fact to absorb various forms of energy from special beings, why wouldn't he be able to absorb solar energy from someone like Prime?
You want to say that draining and/or energy-absorption attacks don't work on Kryptonians? I direct you to virtually any magazine where the Parasite is the featured villain.
You want to say being in sunlight means Kryptonian healing factor or continual replacement of said energy means the Kryptonian is invincible?
I direct you to the Death of Superman trade, where fighting the high noon showdown in Metropolis, sunlight or no, translated into Superman being sent into coma.
I doubt Rulk could absorb the entirety of the sun itself.
Strangely enough, Marvel DOES have characters that can do stuff like that, Dark Phoenix being the most famous of that sort, but Rulk?
I don't think so.
But you're also talking something not really outlined by this thread.
Remember, the original poster proposed this as the scenario:
Prime's being his whiny b*tchy self like always, and finds himself confronted by the Avengers
In other words, Prime is fighting the Avengers IN CHARACTER.
Superboy Prime, IN CHARACTER, does not push an entire planet into the sun to win a fight. He FIGHTS up close and personal, as comic after comic demonstrates.
Were this purely CISless PISless, purepowerset Prime he might well be able to do something like that.
That option is not a realistic consideration given the Original Poster's premise, though.
As for Superman not being equal to Superboy Prime, presumably you wrote that because Superman is post-Crisis and Superboy Prime is pre-Crisis.
But in that case, I again direct you to any magazine featuring the Parasite. Energy absorption worked just as well on pre-Crisis Kryptonians as post-Crisis ones. Pre-Crisis Parasite proves that to be the case.
As for Superman not being equal to Superboy Prime, presumably you wrote that because Superman is post-Crisis and Superboy Prime is pre-Crisis.But in that case, I again direct you to any magazine featuring the Parasite. Energy absorption worked just as well on pre-Crisis Kryptonians as post-Crisis ones. Pre-Crisis Parasite proves that to be the case.
Actually i wrote it because Superman holds back a huge amount of his power so he won't overly harm anyone including his enemies. Prime has no such handicap. He would go for the kill from jump which means Rulk (with his full absorbing powers) probably wouldn't have to time to absorb anything as his head is being removed from his body faster than he can register the pain from it.
Originally posted by iceman24567
Absorption isn't happening why stay on the subject
1. That's what Juggerman is asking about.
2. Energy absorbing Rulk is the kind of Rulk Jeph Loeb wrote.
It's the Rulk I was implicitly asked to defend.
3. You've given no good reason why Rulk wouldn't be doing this.
Prove to me this isn't an option for him.
I have no problem admitting that, WITHOUT energy absorption ability, Rulk would be a non factor in an SBP fight.
But you need to establish that much for me first.