Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Those 3 characters could arguably win the majority against the She Hulks without the other canon fodder.
Betty is key for the She Hulk's, and unless she has suddenly lost the power to siphon ambient energy from other supers, I can't see how either Storm, Ms. Marvel, or Psylocke would make a difference. Especially when you factor in her having the strength at base levels to be able to Punch her way through a dimensional barrier. Let's also not forget about her Odin forged and enchanted Bastard sword. That's without including Jen, and Lyra.
I can easily see them turning team 2 over on their collective heads.
Originally posted by Stoic
Betty is key for the She Hulk's, and unless she has suddenly lost the power to siphon ambient energy from other supers, I can't see how either Storm, Ms. Marvel, or Psylocke would make a difference. Especially when you factor in her having the strength at base levels to be able to Punch her way through a dimensional barrier. Let's also not forget about her Odin forged and enchanted Bastard sword. That's without including Jen, and Lyra.I can easily see them turning team 2 over on their collective heads.
Psylocke could probably take out the hulks by herself with a mind blast. Also arent the red hulks siphoning abilities more of a physical contact thing i.e they hold on to you and siphon it at their pace. Because all of the red hulks have been hurt by energy blasts. Ms Marvels far better at energy siphoning and she can still be hurt by energy attacks.
Storms winds can restrict their movements and slow them down whilst ms marvel pummels at them with energy blasts and Psylocke takes em down psychically.
Originally posted by The Sorrow
Really depends on Psylocke and if she can affect the Hulk's enough to allow the bigger guns to gain advantage, otherwise the She-Hulks run riot. Lyra can handle several members in her trance state, and Red She-Hulk can absorb energy from Ms Marvel or Storm.
I addressed the energy absorption point.
Has Red She Hulk shown to be ability to absorb energy attacks?
I know she can touch someone and slowly absorb energy from them under her control and at her own pace.
Storm holds the Hulks at bay with her winds and severely restricts their movement whilst attacking with lightning, Ms Marvel can attack with her energy blasts and all this gives time for Psylocke to do her thing 🙂
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Psylocke could probably take out the hulks by herself with a mind blast. Also arent the red hulks siphoning abilities more of a physical contact thing i.e they hold on to you and siphon it at their pace. Because all of the red hulks have been hurt by energy blasts. Ms Marvels far better at energy siphoning and she can still be hurt by energy attacks.Storms winds can restrict their movements and slow them down whilst ms marvel pummels at them with energy blasts and Psylocke takes em down psychically.
That didn't appear to be the case when Rulk beat the hell out of Uatu. In order for him to have even been able to see or touch Uatu he had to have been tapping into his powers before the first blow ever landed.
Originally posted by Stoic
That didn't appear to be the case when Rulk beat the hell out of Uatu. In order for him to have even been able to see or touch Uatu he had to have been tapping into his powers before the first blow ever landed.
Red Hulk had to have been siphoning Uatus powers in order to be able to perceive or hit him? Is that what youre saying just so we're clear?
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
I addressed the energy absorption point.Has Red She Hulk shown to be ability to absorb energy attacks?
I know she can touch someone and slowly absorb energy from them under her control and at her own pace.
Storm holds the Hulks at bay with her winds and severely restricts their movement whilst attacking with lightning, Ms Marvel can attack with her energy blasts and all this gives time for Psylocke to do her thing 🙂
Storms winds aren't stopping the She-Hulks for any great length of time, when they all have class 100 strength but agreed with Betsy, she is key imo to Team 2 winning.
Originally posted by Stoic
That's what I got from reading it, and the explanation that was given later on just before Rulk ran into Omegex.
I'll have to read that issue again but i didnt pick that up at all.
What statements were given for you to come to that conclusion?
Furthermore just like She Hulk isnt Hulk, Red She Hulk isnt Red Hulk.
What energy absorption feats has Red She Hulk got to support your opinion that she could absorb energy blasts directed at her in a Ms Marvel fashion?
Originally posted by The Sorrow
Well Rulk has absorbed attacks without touching the person, i'm not sure if Betty has been shown to but they were created by the same process so I don't see why she wouldn't be able to.Storms winds aren't stopping the She-Hulks for any great length of time, when they all have class 100 strength but agreed with Betsy, she is key imo to Team 2 winning.
Red She Hulk isnt the Red Hulk. Just like She Hulk isnt Hulk in terms of ability, she has a reduced power set.
Theres also a difference from a Hulk holding someone and absorbing energy from them or being in close proximity and siphoning off power at his own pace and by being bombarded with energy attacks.
The She Hulks arent as strong as the Hulks and Storm has successfully blown Hulk miles away.
As aforementioned Storm can easily restrict their movement to a snails pace with focused hurricane force on them, severely limiting their agility and movement allowing the Hulks to be attacked with lightning, photon bombardments and a psychic attack.
There is a difference between mind control and just mind blasting someone to sleep. Psylocke could without a doubt incapacitate the Hulks by herself.
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
I'll have to read that issue again but i didnt pick that up at all.What statements were given for you to come to that conclusion?
Furthermore just like She Hulk isnt Hulk, Red She Hulk isnt Red Hulk.
What energy absorption feats has Red She Hulk got to support your opinion that she could absorb energy blasts directed at her in a Ms Marvel fashion?
A female Watcher told Rulk of the events that had unfolded after Rulk beat Uatu into a mess, and the effects that the beating had on him. She also explained that it was his powers of absorption that allowed for him to even touch Uatu. Uatu then finds a race destroying sentient killing machine named Omegex, and programs it to track and destroy Rulk, by using his bio signature to track him across the cosmos. Rulk battles the robot, and attempts to siphon power from it, but the robot turns his powers against him, and in so doing nearly overloads Rulk. Just as Omegex was about to deliver the killing blow, Rulk transforms into his human form, and Omegex packs it up, and leaves because it could no longer detect Rulk's energy signature.
Rulk did not have to touch Uatu, or Odin force Thor in order to siphon from either. I'm still unclear if it was actually Thor with remnants of the Odin Force but whatever.
Rulk only had a certain amount of energy that he could siphon before he overheated, as seen with his battle with Thor, and the savage Hulk. Betty was able to keep pace with the Hulk in the Dark Dimension due to the Wishing Well, which is why she did not overload at a certain point. The Well I believe removed her cap.
There is also the idea that Betty could rip up a large chunk of real estate weighing several million tons and whip it at Betsy and the crew. Or thunder clap the weaker members into a KO'd condition, which would leave only Carol.
Betsy could do this, but the hulk's have had a history of resisting TP.