2012 Presidential Election

Originally posted by dadudemon
lol

Yes?

So, do you have any other comeback other than "well, that's fail"?

IMO, it is combination of what I said earlier and what you said, here. He knows Obama has something to hide and he wants to do that song and dance thing. There's probably something about his records that Obama doesn't want to get out...like an F on a transcript or something like that.

Well I disagree, a citizen is a citizen.

You need more? But okay, that "If you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear" bit shits on a person's privacy. Which I hold dear.

To Trump it's a win/win situation and he's an assclown for noted reasons. Trump saying "alright, sorry, I was wrong" should Obama play along and his paperwork be in order is not a factor, no matter what.

Originally posted by Robtard
Well I disagree, a citizen is a citizen.

But a public servant is not a private citizen.

Originally posted by Robtard
You need more? But okay, that "If you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear" bit shits on a person's privacy. Which I hold dear.

Cool story, bro. But the PotUS is not a private citizen.

Originally posted by Robtard
To Trump it's a win/win situation and he's an assclown for noted reasons. Trump saying "alright, sorry, I was wrong" should Obama play along and his paperwork be in order is not a factor, no matter what.

Not just to Trump, to me, to you, to everyone. Trump already thinks he's an ass and he revels in it. Even had a show dedicated to his assery. So that's not a problem and he's not losing any face. His end game? Obama will most likely not do jack (which could go a long way in shutting up the haters if his records make him look even better...AND it would shut up Trump, majorly is a pwned kind of way) and Trump still wins.

I think you think that it makes Obama look like he's taking orders from Trump. That's not the case. This is the perfect opportunity to shut Trump up. That assumes that Obama's records look awesome. If they don't, yeah, he shouldn't release them. My guess is the worst we'll see on Obama's records are some shit about a B in a class. Obama is a very smart and intelligent man: I really don't think Obama has anything to fear.

Some interesting stats on presidents and the economy. Note the columns on corporate profits and the unemployment rate, anyone still think Obama is good for the middle class?

Originally posted by dadudemon
Holy crap.

Test to see if the request is legit: I would have no problem releasing that information of myself.

So what does the President have to hide?

If Obama releases that information, I will vote for him.

what foolishness

the president does not have to jump to the barked command of a clown.

if trump claims obama has an 800ct white diamond up his ass does that mean obama has to bend over and spread his cheeks to the world? and for what? to prove something to a bunch of far-right conspiracy theorist wingnut rednecks who wont vote for him anyway?

Originally posted by focus4chumps
what foolishness

the president does not have to jump to the barked command of a clown.

I agree. But he does have something to gain by divulging those records if he has nothing to hide. Like I said, I wouldn't ask Obama to do anything that I myself would not be willing to do (were I in his situation).

Originally posted by focus4chumps
if trump claims obama has an 800ct white diamond up his ass does that mean obama has to bend over and spread his cheeks to the world? and for what? to prove something to a bunch of far-right conspiracy theorist wingnut rednecks who wont vote for him anyway?

Just a second, it is hard to read your post with all of these men made of straw covering the screen.

Originally posted by dadudemon
I agree. But he does have something to gain by divulging those records if he has nothing to hide. Like I said, I wouldn't ask Obama to do anything that I myself would not be willing to do (were I in his situation).

Just a second, it is hard to read your post with all of these men made of straw covering the screen.

its actually a simple exageration along the same line of logic. (followed by name calling). again you dont know what strawman means.

Originally posted by dadudemon
But a public servant is not a private citizen.

Cool story, bro. But the PotUS is not a private citizen.

Not just to Trump, to me, to you, to everyone. Trump already thinks he's an ass and he revels in it. Even had a show dedicated to his assery. So that's not a problem and he's not losing any face. His end game? Obama will most likely not do jack (which could go a long way in shutting up the haters if his records make him look even better...AND it would shut up Trump, majorly is a pwned kind of way) and Trump still wins.

I think you think that it makes Obama look like he's taking orders from Trump. That's not the case. This is the perfect opportunity to shut Trump up. That assumes that Obama's records look awesome. If they don't, yeah, he shouldn't release them. My guess is the worst we'll see on Obama's records are some shit about a B in a class. Obama is a very smart and intelligent man: I really don't think Obama has anything to fear.

Non sequitur? We're talking why Obama should do little flips for Trump at Trump's whim compared to other birthers.

😐 Yes and no. If you asked to see his balls, he has the right to refuse. He's already shown the paperwork and met the criteria, he doesn't have to dance every time someone wants more proof of him not being a Muslim, Kenyan and/or terrorist.

Disagree on the "shutting up the haters", as the birthers will never be satisfied.

No, not "taking orders", more akin to entertaining the unending lunacies of an assclown. Trump last year or earlier this year supposedly "found" incriminating evidence while his private detectives were in Hawaii. Then we hear nothing but crickets. Now we have this little stunt.

ddm, strawman is when you presuppose someone's argument. please get it right from now on, k?

Originally posted by focus4chumps
ddm, strawman is when you presuppose someone's argument. please get it right from now on, k?

Keep making my position look weaker by making a malformed or exaggerated comparison: then destroy that strawman argument you just made with rhetoric.

Shouldn't you be rage reporting me, by now? 😐

Originally posted by Robtard
Non sequitur? We're talking why Obama should do little flips for Trump at Trump's whim compared to other birthers.

Obama would not be doing any flips, at all. He would probably end up doing little but sign a piece of paper and all his aides will do that for him.

Originally posted by Robtard
😐 Yes and no. If you asked to see his balls, he has the right to refuse. He's already shown the paperwork and met the criteria, he doesn't have to dance every time someone wants more proof of him not being a Muslim, Kenyan and/or terrorist.

So says you. But I don't. If there is nothing to hide, and as PotUS he shouldn't have anything to hide, so be it. Sexual privacy? Sure. Academic records privacy? Nope.

Originally posted by Robtard
Disagree on the "shutting up the haters", as the birthers will never be satisfied.

Well, that's not true. It would really destroy many of their various arguments and those arguments about him being an idiot (assuming his records show him to be smart).

Originally posted by Robtard
No, not "taking orders", more akin to entertaining the unending lunacies of an assclown. Trump last year or earlier this year supposedly "found" incriminating evidence while his private detectives were in Hawaii. Then we hear nothing but crickets. Now we have this little stunt.

I agree that it is more like humoring Trump for a win-win situation for Trump. If Obama had nothing to hide, this would be a win-win for Obama: gets the money and destroys Trumps current rage points about Obama being an idiot or some shit.

Originally posted by dadudemon

Obama would not be doing any flips, at all. He would probably end up doing little but sign a piece of paper and all his aides will do that for him.

So says you. But I don't. If there is nothing to hide, and as PotUS he shouldn't have anything to hide, so be it. Sexual privacy? Sure. Academic records privacy? Nope.

Well, that's not true. It would really destroy many of their various arguments and those arguments about him being an idiot (assuming his records show him to be smart).

I agree that it is more like humoring Trump for a win-win situation for Trump. If Obama had nothing to hide, this would be a win-win for Obama: gets the money and destroys Trumps current rage points about Obama being an idiot or some shit.

Not literal flips, just entertaining a butthurt idiot with an agenda. I don't want my President doing this.

Trump doesn't want his Academic records to point out that Obama got a C- in Social Studies or took cooking in HS. He's trying for yet another birther angle since his last one apparently failed. Why should Obama comply with Trump?

Disagreed. The BC was released and it didn't shut up the 'born in Kenya' crowd. It's apparently a fake.

Like I said before (imo), Trump's not going to call it quits and apologize should Obama give him the records he wantrs, it'd be just another conspiracy of doctored records or whatnot. See his previously 'found in Hawaii' claims.

Originally posted by Robtard
Not literal flips, just entertaining a butthurt idiot with an agenda. I don't want my President doing this.

I do. I think it would be funny to entertain such an idea because of the money thing and also because I do not consider it to be very intrusive.

Originally posted by Robtard
Trump doesn't want his Academic records to point out that Obama got a C- in Social Studies or took cooking in HS. He's trying for yet another birther angle since his last one apparently failed. Why should Obama comply with Trump?

Why do you feel that that is a big deal, though?

Originally posted by Robtard
Disagreed. The BC was released and it didn't shut up the 'born in Kenya' crowd. It's apparently a fake.

Well, I looked at it and it definitely has digital problems. There's no way that they could think it was going to shut them up with all of that digital doctoring. Not sure what they were trying to pull.

Originally posted by Robtard
Like I said before (imo), Trump's not going to call it quits and apologize should Obama give him the records he wantrs, it'd be just another conspiracy of doctored records or whatnot. See his previously 'found in Hawaii' claims.

I do not disagree, there, but it is at least something that would force Trump to have to suck it...if we assume there is nothing to hide (which I do). Obama is definitely a smart guy so there should be nothing bad in his transcripts and applications.

Trump is a real life troll. As a moderator I can tell you that you don't want to give trolls the attention they desire or else they will never go away. Obama going along with Trump's request simply gives Trump the attention he so desperately and sadly craves and also makes him look more relevant and meaningful, when all fair minded people know what his angle is, here.

Here's the reality: Trump has no evidence of anything against the president, he never has. Knowing this, he is requesting something from Obama that he knows Obama won't bother providing because the request is A) stupid and B) pointless. And by doing this Trump knows that various mouth breathers will buy into the fallacious argument of "If he has nothing to hide then he would have shown his papers, thus, Obama is hiding something."

The fact that Trump is holding needy charities hostage here just make it all the more despicable and shameful on his part.

Also: http://www.theonion.com/articles/trump-announces-hes-a-very-sad-man,30077/

Obama is treating this like he should: as a joke. What do people expect to find? That he got a C in highschool? That he's secretly a Kenyan spy sent to ruin America? Bluh bluh dumb dumb.

Originally posted by BackFire
Trump is a real life troll. As a moderator I can tell you that you don't want to give trolls the attention they desire or else they will never go away. Obama going along with Trump's request simply gives Trump the attention he so desperately and sadly craves and also makes him look more relevant and meaningful, when all fair minded people know what his angle is, here.

lol!

That argument actually works. I'm convinced. Uncle.

Originally posted by dadudemon
I do. I think it would be funny to entertain such an idea because of the money thing and also because I do not consider it to be very intrusive.

Why do you feel that that is a big deal, though?

Well, I looked at it and it definitely has digital problems. There's no way that they could think it was going to shut them up with all of that digital doctoring. Not sure what they were trying to pull.

I do not disagree, there, but it is at least something that would force Trump to have to suck it...if we assume there is nothing to hide (which I do). Obama is definitely a smart guy so there should be nothing bad in his transcripts and applications.

I don't want my President lowering himself to entertain an assclown, I've said this before.

Because it's entertaining the foolishness of an assclown, I've said this before.

Conspiracy?

It would not force Trump to "suck it", it'd be more fuel for his assclowning, I've said this before.

Originally posted by BackFire
Trump is a real life troll. As a moderator I can tell you that you don't want to give trolls the attention they desire or else they will never go away. Obama going along with Trump's request simply gives Trump the attention he so desperately and sadly craves and also makes him look more relevant and meaningful, when all fair minded people know what his angle is, here.

Here's the reality: Trump has no evidence of anything against the president, he never has. Knowing this, he is requesting something from Obama that he knows Obama won't bother providing because the request is A) stupid and B) pointless. And by doing this Trump knows that various mouth breathers will buy into the fallacious argument of "If he has nothing to hide then he would have shown his papers, thus, Obama is hiding something."

The fact that Trump is holding needy charities hostage here just make it all the more despicable and shameful on his part.

Also: http://www.theonion.com/articles/trump-announces-hes-a-very-sad-man,30077/

and lol @ "I am very honored to have gotten him to release his long form birth certificate.... or whatever it may be."

Originally posted by Nephthys
Sometimes I wish Abe Lincoln really would swoop in on a giant bald eagle and bitchslap your stupidass political system.

Only in America.

Originally posted by BackFire
Trump is a real life troll. As a moderator I can tell you that you don't want to give trolls the attention they desire or else they will never go away. Obama going along with Trump's request simply gives Trump the attention he so desperately and sadly craves and also makes him look more relevant and meaningful, when all fair minded people know what his angle is, here.

Here's the reality: Trump has no evidence of anything against the president, he never has. Knowing this, he is requesting something from Obama that he knows Obama won't bother providing because the request is A) stupid and B) pointless. And by doing this Trump knows that various mouth breathers will buy into the fallacious argument of "If he has nothing to hide then he would have shown his papers, thus, Obama is hiding something."

The fact that Trump is holding needy charities hostage here just make it all the more despicable and shameful on his part.

Also: http://www.theonion.com/articles/trump-announces-hes-a-very-sad-man,30077/

Trolls on the internet forum don't have 7 mil to give away to a cause when begging your attention, but yeah.

Obama should go for it. It wouldn't make himself look any worse than he already does. Child killer and all.

Originally posted by Mairuzu
Lincoln sucks

right, there is nothing racial about supporting Paul

I support Paul as long as he supports the idea of liberty. So no?