2012 Presidential Election

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MITT ROMNEY 2012 & 2016

Originally posted by Jim Colyer
MITT ROMNEY 2012 & 2016

Well, it seems 2012 is going to Romney.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Well, it seems 2012 is going to Romney.
If Obama wins then I'm never trusting anything you say ever again. And I've been pretty blind at that so far.

If Obama wins I'm moving to Kenya.

Originally posted by Lord Lucien
If Obama wins then I'm never trusting anything you say ever again. And I've been pretty blind at that so far.

I am not making any predictions. My prediction was Obama.

Romney is ahead in the Gallop polls...the one where they ask "who did you vote for?"

I believe it was 52 to 45, last time. That's a big enough margin to beat the "spread".

So, you don't have to take my word for it, it's Gallop's prediction/projection.

Pretty sure its going to Obama

Originally posted by Mindset
If Obama wins I'm moving to Kenya.
F*ck yeah! They've got lions and tigers in Kenya. Forget Norway...

It's only been four years since we had a born-with-a-silver-spoon-in-his-mouth-cronyism-loving-white-man as president, can we at least wait another four? I don't think that's asking too much.

Originally posted by Robtard
It's only been four years since we had a born-with-a-silver-spoon-in-his-mouth-cronyism-loving-white-man as president, can we at least wait another four? I don't think that's asking too much.

Who cares about the silver spoon, Obama expanded everything bush did. haermm

Edit: And some extended.

Originally posted by Mairuzu
Who cares about the silver spoon, Obama expanded everything bush did. haermm

Edit: And some extended.

I'll bite.

What did Obama expand of Bush's?

What did Obama extend of Bush's?

Expanded the war on terror. That goes for the patriot act and the new addition to the family, NDAA. Also includes drone warfare and an abudant amount of more bombings in the middle east such as yemen and pakistan, libya etc. He even has a kill list and has assassinated American Citizens including 16 year old Adbulrahman al-Awlaki. Sounds like quite the expansion to me.

Also wanting to add more troops passed the bush administrations deadline but was declided by the iraqi government. We still maintain a presence. More troops for the war in afghanistan.

Harsher on journalist and Whistleblowers. Guantanamo bay is still operating. CIA rendition.

Military spending continues to rise.

TSA naked body scanning additions

Maintains the stance on marijuana prohibition

TARP

Hes a corporatist warmonger. Theres most likely more but I dont even want to continue.

to be fair, most of those have been bipartisan endeavors long before Obama or Bush were around.

**** fair. Exactly my point of them being the same.

but a lot of those are more like "Obama didn't live up to the impossible expectations his campaign set in 2008" than anything else. anyone who legitimately thought Obama was going to end the war on drugs or terror is delusional. I'm not even saying the criticism is invalid, just that leveling them at Obama or calling these his policy choices seems blatantly political, as these have been issues for years.

Leaving them as the same is one thing but increasing them is another.

everyone increases some and loosen others, see: DADT, DOMA

Sure, I guess that would be a broad way of putting it. Even though we're not discussing everyone.

So it seems you have an unrealistic view of the US President.

Where you one of those that swallowed the "Change!" rhetoric back in 2008?

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The fact we're making even four year olds cry now just goes to show how depressing this election really is haermm

Originally posted by Mairuzu
Sure, I guess that would be a broad way of putting it. Even though we're not discussing everyone.

sure, and like I said, I agree with your criticisms in broad terms, but not as solely leveled against Obama.

Like, imagine a Paul presidency. How much of a mandate, in the house/senate, among both parties, among lobbiests, would he have to be given to end the drug war or go back to the gold standard? It is nearly impossible the way things are set up.