Originally posted by Branlor Swift
But that's not what's being argued.In relation to characters is being argued. And when characters are almost always human sized on either Earth or Apokolips, it means the Boomtube scaling things is rather irrelevant.
When Supergirl visited Apocolips, wasn't she the size of a fly compared to the New Gods?
Originally posted by Branlor Swift
But that's not what's being argued.In relation to characters is being argued. And when characters are almost always human sized on either Earth or Apokolips, it means the Boomtube scaling things is rather irrelevant.
Ok, wasn't aware of that.
shrug Irrelevant ok, but this is what the BoomTube does.
Originally posted by Batman-PrimeWe are arguing these things under the assumption that they are on the same scale. Abhil stated that Orion shaking Apokolips is 'teh uber' because Apokolips is thousands of times larger than earth-- of course it's larger, it exists in a higher dimensional plane. However, Apokolips is proportionally no larger than the Moon in relation to earth, thus it's really not that impressive for a herald level character.
I don't see a contradiction at all. Apokalips is thousands or hundreds of times bigger, if it isn't scaled down. But it is, to make life easier for writers and artist and the story. If the Boomtube wouldn't scale it down or up Apok > Earth, so most likely imho Apok = Earth with a proper Boomtube.
Originally posted by Galan007
We are arguing these things under the assumption that they are on the same scale. Abhil stated that Orion shaking Apokolips is 'teh uber' because Apokolips is thousands of times larger than earth-- of course it's larger, it exists in a higher dimensional plane. However, Apokolips is proportionally no larger than the Moon in relation to earth, thus it's really not that impressive for a herald level character.
KK. Though to be fair, Orion most likely, like any Herlad with Heraldlevel Superstrength would be able to shake the Earth. Besides that, as far as I know Orion is normally Supes equal when it comes to strength, angry maybe even slightly above him.
Originally posted by Batman-Prime
KK. Though to be fair, Orion most likely, like any Herlad with Heraldlevel Superstrength would be able to shake the Earth. Besides that, as far as I know Orion is normally Supes equal when it comes to strength, angry maybe even slightly above him.
Orion was able to do well against a sun amped Supes. Which is an outrageous feat.
Originally posted by Galan007
Really? When?
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Superman/SupesMOT-13-01.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Superman/SupesMOT-13-02-03.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Superman/SupesMOT-13-14.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Superman/SupesMOT-13-15.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Superman/SupesMOT-13-16.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Superman/SupesMOT-13-17.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Superman/SupesMOT-13-18.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Superman/SupesMOT-13-21.jpg
Left out the scene where they Kryptonite him afterwards.
Originally posted by Branlor SwiftMan of Tomorrow #13. Just flipped through it. There was a sizable gap in time between Superman flying close to the sun, and when he fought Orion-- so it wasn't exactly a 'fresh' amp.
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Superman/SupesMOT-13-01.jpg
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http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Superman/SupesMOT-13-15.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Superman/SupesMOT-13-16.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Superman/SupesMOT-13-17.jpg
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Left out the scene where they Kryptonite him afterwards.
Still cool, though. Orion trades a few blows before getting slapped to the side. 👆
Originally posted by Galan007
Man of Tomorrow #13. Just flipped through it. There was a pretty big gap in time between Superman flying close to the sun, and when he fought Orion-- so it wasn't exactly a 'fresh' amp.Still cool, though. Orion trades a few blows before getting slapped to the side. 👆
Originally posted by Galan007Meh, he was monologuing right beside the sun in the same comic.
Saw that. He was stronger than normal, yeah. But for some reason I thought the instance you referred to was a 'fresh' amp(like he's had most other times.)I wouldn't say Orion did "well" though.
They went like 7 to 5 hits (assuming Orion landed one in one of the trading ones) for Superman while Orion was still standing fresh.
That's a pretty sexy feat for anyone, even two years before Our Worlds at Gay
Originally posted by Branlor Swift
Meh, he was monologuing right beside the sun in the same comic.
I don't think 11 pages is enough time for his amp to be considered "old" considering how he stores energy.They went like 7 to 5 hits (assuming Orion landed one in one of the trading ones) for Superman while Orion was still standing fresh.
That's a pretty sexy feat for anyone, even two years before Our Worlds at Gay
Exactly. Orion didn't look tired at all. I'm sure Superman would have won in the end, but it's still a solid feat.
Originally posted by Branlor SwiftIt was good, but Barda's single blast did more than Orion's punches. /shrug
Meh, he was monologuing right beside the sun in the same comic.
I don't think 11 pages is enough time for his amp to be considered "old" considering how he stores energy.They went like 7 to 5 hits (assuming Orion landed one in one of the trading ones) for Superman while Orion was still standing fresh.
That's a pretty sexy feat for anyone, even two years before Our Worlds at Gay
Now it is going to turn into an Orion wank-fest... PM is already on the case.
