Originally posted by NotAllThatEvilIn the game iirc when he does that move if he's struck in that vulnerable state he dies. That wouldn't be wise in the middle of a giant battle.
How about after every dungeon, he becomes increasingly harder to kill. It takes more hits for weaker enemies to take him down. Also he gets that one move that does one shot almost every grunt.
Originally posted by BloodRainI disagree. Gorons can be hurt just like the Giants. I for see the Giants superior size coming into play here. If the Gorons get hit by the scythe they are going to die or be hurt seriously.
Gorons are far stronger and more durable than most things in HP, and they are have higher sentience so will fight back.. not to mention numbers. The only impressive 'prey' in the HP verse would be giants and other dragons, both things that a dragon would likely just tie with. Everything we know about Gorons tells us they're powerful.None of that has anything to do with the dragons stats.
Flame weaker than lava. Being KO'd from flying into a wall being little compared to surviving several megaton hammer hits. Nothing a HP!Dragon does compares to making a volcano erupt.. Volvagia eats creatures stronger than HP!Dragons for breakfast, quite literally.
The Gorons will be most likely the tanks of the zelda universe in battle. They are strong but stupid and killable.
I disagree. I for one see the flames of a HPotter dragon killing a Goron personally. I also see this dragon as being able to kill Volvagia. It's also one of many dragons which was my point. The dragons in high numbers still can't terrorize the world of wizards.
To me that isn't the only thing canon. I will admit gameplay is a tricky thing. For instance we know Link is fated to win in the end but the how is up to the skill of the player. We can clearly see certain enemies(all enemies) have the power to kill him if provided the opportunity. This boils down to Link's strength, skill, gear and the skill of the player.
Gameplay is a tricky thing, but here is where things branch off. Saying that 'how Link wins is up to the player' is like saying 'how Superman wins is up to the reader', games, particularly Zelda games, do have a single story and narrative that they tell. Events are set in stone, the gameplay exists to put us in Link's shoes, challenge us, and to create fun. It does not effect the 'canon'. Certain events in gameplay cannot be avoided, and put telling the story into the player's hands, but those events are again, set in stone.
Things like Link impaling Ganondorf cannot be changed, for example.
The true canon of the game is the story that is being told and the events that cannot be changed.
I think Link is beyond a normal human but to me it's the same song and dance seen various times in fiction. I don't think Link is a scrub but his foes clearly have the means and power to hurt/kill him. This is seen throughout the game but ultimately Link prevails doesn't mean everyone he goes through cannot hurt or kill him.No one has ever claimed none of the enemies can hurt Link, they've only debated which enemies might be able to. The story takes the time to show us, in unavoidable events, that Link can withstand progressively greater damage as he grows in power. No one would argue Link straight up tanks attacks from Ganondorf or Morpheel. Only that by the end of the game things like Bulbins and Bokoblins are simply too weak to damage him anymore, and debates use 'current' end game Link. shrug
My point has always been without the weight he cannot do so. He's strong enough just not heavy enough so he needs the gearHey, we agree. Why we agree might be slightly different, but this basic premise is agreed upon.
In real life, as in Twilight Princess, strength does not automatically make you heavy enough to stop a larger mass in motion. I could be class 100, and go to try and push a 10 ton stone, and simply be unable to because it is so much heavier than I am, I could not get a good enough grip with my feet to push it.
I think he does become more powerful and more skilled as the game progresses but that doesn't mean his head becomes more durable. It means his skill and overall strength go up. I can become stronger through weightlifting but no matter how strong I become a kitchen knife will always penetrate my skin. Same principle I am debating by in theory so to speak.I'd agree if the game didn't take time to stop and show us that Link also becomes more durable.
Link's strength and skill aren't purely from training and practice, and are unlike weight training. Through out the game his growth is tied to the ToC. The game shows us at the beginning he is close enough to human that a hard blow from a mace can knock him out. It later shows him getting back up without a second thought after taking a much harder blow from a stronger enemy with an axe.
"A sword wields no strength unless the hand that holds it has courage. You may be destined to become the hero of legend...but your current power would disgrace the proud green of the hero's tunic you wear. You must use your courage to seek power...and find it you must. Only then will you become the hero for whom this world despairs." -Hero's Shade.
This is said of Link even after he starts showing legitimate superhuman strength.
"You who have marched through countless foes, each mightier then the last... You who now gaze to the future with vision unclouded... Surely you can restore Hyrule to its stature of yore as the chosen land of the gods. ...Farwell!" -Hero's Shade
This is said of him before he goes into Hyrule Castle.
If Link laid down and left his face unguarded and Bulbin slammed it into an unprotected Link face what would you assume would happen ?I certainly don't think he'd die. The scene shows us he can take a direct hit and shrug it off.
Voldemort did demonstrate a slash movement of his wand cut into Snape's flesh later though. That I would argue since I see this happen.This is also a spell, septi sectum or something.
The Giants and the Gorons both can hurt each other. The Giants also have the weight needed and are superior in size. The Giants are much more powerful than the animated statues in Potter. We see they can be hurt and killed by them. Their skin isn't immune to physical attacks just like the Gorons are not. Both can hurt/kill the other. I myself favor the Giants over the Gorons but whatvs.
I'm not saying they';re totally impervious to damage, only that they're very hard to actually hurt. The ordeal of the Goron caught in the eruption shows as much.
Gotta run out for now, will respond to other posts when I get back.
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Originally posted by quanchi112
I disagree. Gorons can be hurt just like the Giants. I for see the Giants superior size coming into play here. If the Gorons get hit by the scythe they are going to die or be hurt seriously.
The Gorons will be most likely the tanks of the zelda universe in battle. They are strong but stupid and killable.
I disagree. I for one see the flames of a HPotter dragon killing a Goron personally. I also see this dragon as being able to kill Volvagia. It's also one of many dragons which was my point. The dragons in high numbers still can't terrorize the world of wizards.
Doubtful. Goron's only suffer some pain from magma, whilst HP!Dragon flames don't even heat up rock. The dragons are threatening in HP, but are still just animals with no desire to group together and cause chaos. Its like comparing the sharks of the world to one from Deep Blue Sea; tougher, stronger and actively a dangerous threat.
Originally posted by Impediment
What would be a good match for my anus?