Legalizing Drugs in Mexico

So a lot of politicians and even the former Mexican President Fox has argued for the legalization of drugs in Mexico. It is already legal to possess small quantities of drugs for personal use.

One of their main arguments is that the drug war has not worked and has cost the government money, and created powerful criminal organizations all across South America.

Some countries have claimed the initial drug war was started and supported by the U.S. for ulterior motives which did not have the countries best interest in mind.

How do you think legalizing drugs in mexico would effect the country and the U.S.?

How would the U.S. respond if south american countries followed suit? I think Uruguay was the 1st country to do it in south america.

what are the pros and cons in your opinion?

discuss

The USA should admit that the war on drugs is a failure and admit that their policies have ruined Latin America.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
The USA should admit that the war on drugs is a failure and admit that their policies have ruined Latin America.

These aren't Mom-and-Pop marijuana growers getting persecuted by the Mexican government or something. They kill people to maintain power and they have long since diversified their portfolios. Ending the drug war in Mexico won't do much of anything. At best its a symbolic act by the Mexican government, at worst that symbol says "you win" to people who are murdering their citizens.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
These aren't Mom-and-Pop marijuana growers getting persecuted by the Mexican government or something. They kill people to maintain power and they have long since diversified their portfolios. Ending the drug war in Mexico won't do much of anything. At best its a symbolic act by the Mexican government, at worst that symbol says "you win" to people who are murdering their citizens.

Winning the drug war in Central and South America is as much an impossibility as winning the War on Terror in the Middle East is for us.

And the war might actually end a lot sooner if the Mexican government allowed US troops to come in since this war is annoying the everloving crap out of us.

Originally posted by Nemesis X
And the war might actually end a lot sooner if the Mexican government allowed US troops to come in since this war is annoying the everloving crap out of us.

Originally posted by Lord Lucien
You guys just always need a place to stick your dick, huh?

You have a noisy neighbor from across the street. Instead of filing a complaint that receives no response from your less caring landlord, would you want to go over there, see what the problem is and see if you can help stop what's causing the ruckus?

Originally posted by Tzeentch._
To be fair, continuing the drug war in Mexico won't do anything either.

Winning the drug war in Central and South America is as much an impossibility as winning the War on Terror in the Middle East is for us.

the drug war dies once you legalize it. the cartels shifting to other legal activities doesn't mean the mexican people on average wont benefit from the drug being legal. 1st of all drugs should never have been illegal for a race of people which drug use is part of their culture for thousands of years.

its retarded to have made it illegal b/c western people didnt like their native culture.

you legalize drugs and the prison population drops massively which in turn means more money for other government programs, better quality life in prison, higher pay for police and employees..

Weed would make billions for mexico and provide jobs for people from farmers, factories providing things from cigs, food, clothing, oil, paper which can all be taxed, and again help improve the government and better funded law enforcement.

by legalizing it, it also frees up the police to continue hunting and arresting cartel members. they are not getting immunity.

It would make millionaires overnight.

Mexico should allow for tourist to also use drugs, build clubs, casino.. so much could change for mexico almost overnight..

Originally posted by Nietzschean
BS.

the drug war dies once you legalize it.

I think you're entirely mistaken that these violent cartel organizations would simply wither up and die the moment people have a legal alternative to get their fix.

Originally posted by Nietzschean
the drug war dies once you legalize it. the cartels shifting to other legal activities doesn't mean the mexican people on average wont benefit from the drug being legal

Why exactly do you think the cartels will suddenly switch to legal activities if drugs are legalized? A lot of them run guns already and all of them have influence over local governments where they operate. Whether their businesses are legal or not their business practices tend to involved beheading people and leaving their corpses on the side of the road. Mexico will still be at war with them.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Why exactly do you think the cartels will suddenly switch to legal activities if drugs are legalized? A lot of them run guns already and all of them have influence over local governments where they operate. Whether their businesses are legal or not their business practices tend to involved beheading people and leaving their corpses on the side of the road. Mexico will still be at war with them.

The cartel would re prioritize and obviously pursue other illegal activities.. since selling a drug which cost half if not less and there iis no demand would no longer be profitable.

Their business practices are irrelevant they are still criminal and should be treated as such. these guys dont get amnesty in anyway for what they have done.

the war will begin to favor the mexican law enforcement by virtue of better funding, focus on one group of people instead of arresting drug users.

Originally posted by Tzeentch._
What historical precedence implies this?

I think you're entirely mistaken that these violent cartel organizations would simply wither up and die the moment people have a legal alternative to get their fix.

umm.. b/c it is the logical outcome once you stop arresting and going to war over drugs.

the war will be over something else.

Do we still have war over alcohol once prohibition was repealed?

look at countries like Amsterdam, portugal.

They should give it the ol college try.

Originally posted by Mindset
They should give it the ol college try.

Originally posted by Nemesis X
You have a noisy neighbor from across the street. Instead of filing a complaint that receives no response from your less caring landlord, would you want to go over there, see what the problem is and see if you can help stop what's causing the ruckus?

Originally posted by Nietzschean
I didnt say the cartel would switch from illegal activities. I said you would remove one illegal activity by making it legal. they would lose 60% of their income which comes from drugs.

No they wouldn't. They'd keep selling drugs. Remember how drugs are legal in this scenario? Yeah, they already control the drug trade in Mexico. They'd control the legal drug trade too. Nothing meaningful changes in this scenario but, sure, you've won a minor symbolic victory for potheads everywhere.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
No they wouldn't. They'd keep selling drugs. Remember how drugs are legal in this scenario? Yeah, they already control the drug trade in Mexico. They'd control the legal drug trade too. Nothing meaningful changes in this scenario but, sure, you've won a minor symbolic victory for potheads everywhere.

the mexican law enforcement already has a large list of known drug dealers and traffickers its not like they can walk out and invest in companies..

the most meaningful thing is the mexican people get what they want which the government should never have denied them to begin with. it provides works for people..

Do you really thing the drug cartel is controlling tobacco fields, tomatoes, alcohol business? its not profitable for them and not convenient to take control due to plots of land being protected and maintained by government military, police, private security..

the minute weed becomes legal it will cost a few cents for a cigaweed.
Cartels will lose employes looking for more legitimate jobs.

Originally posted by Nietzschean
they dont want to let u.s. tourist do them though.. which is stupid, they would make it a crime. 😒

Let's invade.

Given it is consumption of drugs in America that funds these cartels, the legalization of drugs in Mexico will have little effect, except to allow regular citizens to purchase the drugs from the state rather than a cartel member, maybe(?)...

Originally posted by Nietzschean
the minute weed becomes legal it will cost a few cents for a cigaweed.

that isn't how any products on the market are valued.