Superman & Batman vs Ironman & Thor

Originally posted by Batman-Prime
That they are still better at teamworking and have access to better tech then Tony and Thor.

You are quite vague and it's still debatable if it's possible for them to get enough of this New Asgardian artifacts within a month. Superman on the other hand showed that he can learn and do things within seconds.

Tony and Thor aren't friends iirc, the last time Tony created a Thor clone and Thor kicked his ass after coming back from the dead... a great start for a team up isn't it?

I see the point your trying to make with teamwork but I disagree with Bruce having better tech than Stark.

Originally posted by Batman-Prime
That they are still better at teamworking and have access to better tech then Tony and Thor.

You are quite vague and it's still debatable if it's possible for them to get enough of this New Asgardian artifacts within a month. Superman on the other hand showed that he can learn and do things within seconds.

Tony and Thor aren't friends iirc, the last time Tony created a Thor clone and Thor kicked his ass after coming back from the dead... a great start for a team up isn't it?

Based on what? What character developments in Justice League or any other DCnU title suggest DCnU Batman and Superman are great friends and as cohesive a unit as they were pre-Flashpoint?

I named explicit artifacts which Thor can call upon as royalty. Not sure how thats being vague when "kryptonian tech" isn't? And yes, considering most of this stuff is in the armory and where the stuff can be accessed easily by those who can retrieve it, it wouldn't take a month to gather these things.

....yeah, Thor and Tony have since made up. Like literally years ago. You're behind on their current stance as friends/teammates.

Originally posted by cdtm
Has Thor ever used the Destroyer armor before?

Seems like he's always fighting it, not using it for anything. And using the armor doesn't seem his style anyways.. I'd think CIS would cover against him using it.

Yes, he has.

He's always fighting it because the Armor is almost always being used by nefarious means (ie. Loki's manipulation). It's still a weapon, a major one, in the arsenal of Asgard. Thor's not above using amps and special weapons if he deems it necessary, either.

Originally posted by society619
I see the point your trying to make with teamwork but I disagree with Bruce having better tech than Stark.

Well, Starks no Doom..

Panther, he probably has better tech than Stark, but all he did against his fancy ceramic stealth suit is exploit it's vents to gum up his works, and reprogram his artificial heart thanks to code he gathered...

So he more or less fought like Batman would have.

Bruce could easily get specs on Starks armor, given intelligence gathering is what a detective does, and find a simple weakness to exploit..

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Yes, he has.

He's always fighting it because the Armor is almost always being used by nefarious means (ie. Loki's manipulation). It's still a weapon, a major one, in the arsenal of Asgard. Thor's not above using amps and special weapons if he deems it necessary, either.

Key words being, when he deems it necessary.

He's also very proud.. Using Asgards major relics against two "mere mortals" just doesn't sound like something Thor would do, imo.

Originally posted by cdtm
Well, Starks no Doom..

Panther, he probably has better tech than Stark, but all he did against his fancy ceramic stealth suit is exploit it's vents to gum up his works, and reprogram his artificial heart thanks to code he gathered...

So he more or less fought like Batman would have.

Bruce could easily get specs on Starks armor, given intelligence gathering is what a detective does, and find a simple weakness to exploit..

While Bruce is doing his thing, what do you think Tony's doing?

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
While Bruce is doing his thing, what do you think Tony's doing?

Coming up with a bigger, badder armor, like he usually does. 😉

More than likely to counter Supes, more than Bats. Bats being seen as just a guy in a bat suit is one of his greatest strengths..

Originally posted by cdtm
Key words being, when he deems it necessary.

He's also very proud.. Using Asgards major relics against two "mere mortals" just doesn't sound like something Thor would do, imo.

So we've established he has used this relics and whatnot before. Good. 🙂

Tony wouldn't have any issues, and seeing as he's helped rebuild Asgard and has been a strong ally of theirs (and as such granted more lenience as a mortal) to say nothing of the bond between he and Thor, really don't why the two of them wouldn't use the relics. Even barring the Destroyer Armor, they still have access to uru weapons and more mundane yet still highly powerful artifacts which, to date, I don't see either Bruce or Clark having a counter for.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
While Bruce is doing his thing, what do you think Tony's doing?

Originally posted by cdtm
Coming up with a bigger, badder armor, like he usually does. 😉

More than likely to counter Supes, more than Bats. Bats being seen as just a guy in a bat suit is one of his greatest strengths..

Pretty sure Tony would investigate into both of them and given his seasoned experience, would want to look into a guy who'd likely remind him of Black Panther, whom he regards as a peer and equal and undoubtedly a threat if they were on opposite sides of the spectrum.

Tony's not above using every available resource and power he has to his advantage. Just look at the stuff he did while he was Director of SHIELD.

DCnU World's Finest just don't have the feats or the history to suggest them winning a prep war lasting 1 month. The only real arguments against Thor/Tony consist of assuming their relationship as friends/allies is shit (which isn't true), that Thor can't or won't access Asgard's armory (which isn't true), that gathering such things would take longer than a month (which isn't true), or if we're basically ignoring the whole DCnU versions of the characters to justify them winning.

I have no problem admitting that pre-Flashpoint versions could definitely win. But DCnU? Not really seeing it.

Originally posted by iceman24567
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Thor solos with prep

Not sure I understand any arguments against that, other than an odd belief that he wouldn't because his pride will force him to not prep

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That's like arguing superman wouldn't fight Thor because Thor's is a nice guy. That kind of arguments have no place here when an OP states otherwise.

Thor and Ironman take this. Ironman would absolutely destroy batman and then proceed to help Thor finish off superman.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Batman's smarter than Tony? That's rich. He's a better detective and crime fighter, but in anything resembling technology and engineering (or science in general), Bruce is getting humbled big time.

Odd.

Despite Batman's superior criminology and martial arts skill he still gets destroyed by Tony. Ironman's armor is just to much for Bruce to overcome.

Tech can be shut down. Supes is still faster and though they might not be able to "counter" Asgardian artifacts, whatever they might be. Kryptonian tech, weapons, ships, armor should still be sufficient enough. 1 Month at Superspeeds is an eternity to build up a defense and offense.

highly doubt batman could shut down stark's suit imo.

If Thor brings the Casket what does the team do?

Originally posted by pym-ftw
If Thor brings the Casket what does the team do?

Take it away from him and beat him to death, in a naonsecond sneer

Originally posted by pym-ftw
Thor solos with prep

Not sure I understand any arguments against that, other than an odd belief that he wouldn't because his pride will force him to not prep

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That's like arguing superman wouldn't fight Thor because Thor's is a nice guy. That kind of arguments have no place here when an OP states otherwise.

Superman will most definitely hold back, too.

CIS is on by default, unless the Op says otherwise. He did not here.

Thor refusing to prep up because of pride isn't an odd argument. It's entirely within his character. He rarely even uses the full range of his powers against the likes of Hulk because of his pride, let alone using the overpowered relics of Asgard against anything less than a Skyfather level threat..