These powaful dudes vs. Those powaful dudes...

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These powaful dudes vs. Those powaful dudes...

Team DC:

*OWAW Superman-- This version/mindset, not the sun-amped version.

*WWIII Black Adam

*Countdown Orion-- the levels he was at just before killing Darkseid.

*Majestic /w/ Kusar Blades-- assume he is lusting blood

*Hal at Krona-busting levels

vs.

Team Marvel:

*B&T Thor

*Decoupled Beta Ray Bill-- assume he can sustain these levels indefinitely.

*World Breakah Hulk

*Surfer--assume he is lusting blood.

*Sentry-- just before he went full crab/Void. No direct molecule manipulation can be used against his opponents.

Fight takes place in an indestructible/inescapable dome stitched from the same material as Wolverine's jeans.

Go!

Team 2 6/10

I think Superman and Orion tip it in favor of 1. This is Source amped Orion?

If it were Source-amped Orion, this would be spite in favor of team 1.

No, this is Orion as he was seen in Countdown #2, when he blew back the JLA with some sort of energy storm, and killed Darkseid. Here's that whole fight, for those who aren't sure what/who the phuck I'm talking about:
[img=http://s4d2.turboimagehost.com/t/13096840_Countdown2p09.jpg]
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Holy crap, I thought Orion had the Source when he swatted the JLA away. Makes Orion even more powerful than I thought.

Anyway, who do you see winning, Galan?

I think team one's speed edge (Clark and Majestic) tips it in their favor. Throw in the versatility provided by Hal's ring and Orion's Astro Harness (more than enough to offset Norrin's array of powers via the PC), and I'd give the DC side 7/10 or so.

Hell of a fight, though.

Originally posted by Golgo13
Holy crap, I thought Orion had the Source when he swatted the JLA away. Makes Orion even more powerful than I thought.
He may have had the Source-amp in Countdown, now that I think about it. I mean, it would correlate with the Source Being's statement in DotNG:
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/13096861/Death_Of_The_New_Gods-08-027.jpg.html
"Orion will be dispatched, to deal with Darkseid."

...Not sure, though. Orion certainly didn't act the same in Countdown, as he did in DotNG.

Originally posted by Golgo13
Anyway, who do you see winning, Galan?
Undecided. Hoping to see some good arguments for both sides.

Orion had a good feat where he died against IM.

Wasn't there a screw up in the timeline between DONG and Countdown? Could go either way, really.

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
Orion had a good feat where he died against IM.

Was this Source Orion? Scans?

Originally posted by Golgo13
Wasn't there a screw up in the timeline between DONG and Countdown? Could go either way, really.
Second scan:
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/13096841/Countdown2p10.jpg.html
"Orion. You should have died along with the rest of the New Gods at the hands of the Infinity Man." --- so in that regard, the timeline was accurate.

But yeah, it's screwy. Some things in Countdown correlate with DotNG perfectly(and vice versa), and other things don't correlate at all.

Originally posted by Golgo13
Was this Source Orion? Scans?
He's talking about this:
[img=http://s4d4.turboimagehost.com/t/13096863_DOTNG6p16.jpg]
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Hardly a feat. You can put your boner away now.

Why does Scott look so different?

He was possessed/empowered by the ALE at the time.

Team 2 kills.

How, carver? Genuinely curious.

B & T Thor pre Power Gem?

@Galan...

Sentry withstood a full blown Mjlonir strike from Thor. This doesn't include his matter manipulation ft that the team will have to deal with (let alone fail) and his insane healing abilities. He can take any of the members out.

Then we have Hulk...in this state he is physically the strongest member on the field. Then you made this a contained battle. I can't see many of them withstanding too many punches from this version of Hulk, especially in a contained area where his punches (shockwaves) would more than likely spread and hit other members on the opposing team (and probably his team as well).

Then you have Bill at his Prime...someone who completed something/without any trouble, that the combined might of Galactus Heralds was unable to do. This also doesn't include the fact that he beat Asteroth in this form. The hammer would also be a useful tool against Hal.

B&T Thor took on a group of high end Heralds and stomped them. No one short of Thanos was capable of stopping him and I would put Thanos above anyone on the opposing team.

The major issue I see for team Marvel is Majestic creation blades. He can decapitate anyone on the field with them. Sentry would be the best choice to fight him.

If Galan is using Source Orion as was shown above, Team 2 is in for some serious hurt.

Good match imo Superman and Orion make me believe team 1 takes the majority