Jack Bauer vs John McClane

Started by Lestov1611 pages

You have failed basic reasoning skills, so I'm not surprised your reading comprehension is also shit 😂

So that's the tactic now, pretend I said something else and respond to that.

All the rage and butthurt over a fictional character, damn.

My tactic is looking at your retard posts and trying to explain to you how they make you appear as a retard 😆

Bauer wins. His H2H, gunfight, and CQB feats utterly shit all over McClane's. If not, post the evidence proving otherwise. Otherwise

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Originally posted by Lestov16
My tactic is looking at your retard posts and trying to explain to you how they make you appear as a retard 😆

Then that would be just another fail along your long drawn out failpath, then, wouldn't it....

Originally posted by Robtard
So that's the tactic now, pretend I said something else and respond to that.

All the rage and butthurt over a fictional character, damn.

Yup. Thats basically it...
Its been that way for a while now...sad really, not that I judge the resident singular KMC schizophrenic/pathologically delusional singular/collective community that is called Lestov16, bless 'em.
They do what they can.
But as marriage bells ring out in their cluttered minds about a character of their deeply psychosexual ass-petetration-featuring fantasy-choices, that they choose to believe Bauer could be victorius automatically through sheer fanwankage, they remain totally blind to the many-times-presented truth of McClane's evidence based, truth and logic orientated reasoning that is centered around McClane's exploits in Cinema, Videogame and any other kind of media that rightfully makes Bauer look like a kind of tazer-prone copycat and his fans a truth/logic/reason denying, happy pansyistic ponceboy community of 1.

McClane wins.

McClane advocaters win.

Bauer loses.

You lose totally, Lesty.
Utterly, and repeatedly.

In the words of the fabled hunter: "You're not here for the hunting, are you???!?!?!?"

So you've gone back to bringing up your retarded Elmer Fudd stories? 😆 Are you that desperate for an argument? 😂

So you've gone back to typing retarded drivel again?
(as if you've ever really stopped..)

And it was the bear who said it. you didn't pick me up on it, 'cause you didn't read it. I thought so...

Well here it is again Lesty.. This sums you up when in 'repeated Bauer Butthurt McClane grudge thread' mode:

"A guy went out bear hunting one day. He saw a bear and shot it. It was a perfect shot in the head. He walked over to retrieve the dead bear and it wasn't there on the ground. He was wondering where it went. Then he felt a tap on his shoulder. He looked back and it was the bear. The bear said, "Grab your ankles."
So the hunter did and the bear started ramming him up the ass.
The next day, the hunter went back out hunting with a bigger gun. He thought, "I am going to get that damn bear this time!"
He saw the bear, shot him twice, then he noticed the bear was again not on the ground when he tried to retrieve it.
He got another tap on the shoulder. You guessed it, the bear again, saying, "Grab your ankles."
He rammed the guy up the ass again.
The next day the guy went out again, this time he had a 50 caliber machine gun with Armor piercing, explosive tip rounds.
He saw the bear and went crazy on him and filled him full of lead!
Then he got another tap on the shoulder. He looked back and saw the bear.
The bear said, "You know, "I am beginning to think that you are not really coming out here to hunt!"

Whey would I be desperate? Your arguments have been destroyed... repeatedly and convincingly.
All Im doing is pointing out how you seem to love getting annihilated.
And you lost long ago and are on a verbal abuse drive out of butthurt.

This is me chiming in.

I've been receiving numerous reports about how "Individuals are making baseless claims and not backing them".

To smooth things out, I want everyone to try to present some semblance of proof or feat that can back claims. I don't want this to turn ugly and go into a back & forth war. If you can't present viable material, then please find another angle to use in your debate.

If you feel that the arguments you have made do, in fact, hold water then let me know what can be done else.

You can just come outright and say it, Lestov has been spamming your inbox and crying.

Originally posted by Robtard
You can just come outright and say it, Lestov has been spamming your inbox and crying.

His inbox is drowning in my tears......of blood 😈

With the thorough thrashing you've received in here, I'm not surprised if you're tearing up blood.

Post the evidence showing McClane has better H2H, gunfight, or melee feats than Bauer, or admit that Bauer utterly rapes McClane on every level

Originally posted by Impediment
This is me chiming in.

I've been receiving numerous reports about how "Individuals are making baseless claims and not backing them".

To smooth things out, I want everyone to try to present some semblance of proof or feat that can back claims. I don't want this to turn ugly and go into a back & forth war. If you can't present viable material, then please find another angle to use in your debate.

If you feel that the arguments you have made do, in fact, hold water then let me know what can be done else.

No worries, all arguments this side have been backed up.
A cursory glance through the last 4 pages or so should confirm this for you, along with the constant butthurt verbal abuse pattern that has now replaced his 'argument'.

The other side sure doesn't like losing (and then being denied troll pleasure either), judging by his reaction and the fact that he's desperately trying all underhand manipulative tacticry to somehow be given a win even though his backed character clearly was smited verily here.

Sorry you've been dragged into this, Imp.

The guy keeps ignoring facts/evidence.
So here we go again, as it is reposted:

"Unlike your hero, McClane is actually tougher than a Chihuahua and therefore annihilates Bauer. All Bauer's opposition were killed by a man weaker than a Chihuahua, who had to be rescued all the way by CTU (who are piss weak themselves, if Bauer is meant to be the best that they have, although they keep bailing their 'toughest' guy out all the time)and therefore the 24 bad guys ARE the subgrade, substandard generic fodder opposition that I asserted they are.

McClane wins all day everyday in all formats.
Bauer dies horribly/pathetically/amusingly quickly in the Die Hard verse as he is a counterfeit, lilly livered ponce who looks like he couldn't Die Hard his way out of a wet paper bag, compared with McClane, so no... I don't have to "rely" on anything. smile

Gunfeats: Shooting every one dead in all 4 movies, killing everyone he faced in a gunfight, from international mercs, thieves, fort brag trained marines, seals, etc etc, Taking out a chopper by shooting the tiny target at range that is a junction box with a 38. snubnose, causing the wires it supported to tangle the rotors..with only two shits availiable...drawing from his shoulderblades expertly ripping off thick, well secured electrical tape and nailing two enemies, one with a headshot, whom was covering McClane with an Mp5...

H2H/Unarmed, Whilst brutish and savage, McClane killed and or incapacitated all of his opponents he faced and went on to save the day in in 4 major motion pictures against thieves, mercs, top level Marines, seals etc etc Even taking out a 747 with a Zippo during one such encounter in highly unorthodox fashion...

McClane has never died onscreen, unlike Jack "Cant do shit without CTU full support, died cause of an old lady's tazer that little dogs survive with only a slight limp for a week" ass Bauer.
McClane out survives, and out endures Bauer.

McClane kills more people proportionally timewise than Bauer,
(Functioning in 2 hour movies rather than 24 hour series.)

McClane has more games, is harder to kill due to attributes, being more effective and having more regen ability..
More lethal all round and Bauer has ZERO chance against him."

Originally posted by Lestov16
😆 at your post Saddy. It is so full of bullshit, I'm gonna need my [b]big shovel

Bauer's done the same.

Bauer's done the same

Bauer's done the same

Bauer's taken out choppers just by shooting them, so McClane is unimpressive. Also, McClane needed 2 shots, and the wirebox was highly visible and not a difficult target to hit

Bauer killed an entire room of people people seconds after getting stabbed in the abdomen twice.

In H2H? 😕 I realize the McBias has your head dense, but you do remember the subject you're talking about, right?

In H2H/unarmed combat? 😕

😆 Wow! You have the attention span of a goldfish

That tazer the old lady had in DH2 was used to knock a full-grown man unconscious with a one-second taze, and would definitely kill McClane if it was held on his heart for 10 seconds, so 😆 at your downplaying and ignorance of your own film 😂 Again, your nonsensical McBias/Idiocy rears it's ugly head

McClane takes on chump threats compared to Bauer. Your Mcbiased idiocy keeps making you ignore this.

Again, if that's the best evidence you can scrounge up from McChump's franchise, then 😆 , to your face.

So because McClane's feats suck dick compared to Bauer, Bauer wins this effortlessly. [/B]

So yeah, Saddie's a dumbass and Bauer wins this effortlessly 🙂

Originally posted by Lestov16
😆 Yeah, get that baseless McBias out of your system.

Bauer McRapes.

14:18 Bauer wall-run neck snaps a guy (after withstanding torture and a plane crash)

25:16 Bauer takes down 3 dudes with a single punch, headbutt, and clothesline, respectively

37:43 Bauer leg sweeps a man and then snaps his neck with his legs in seconds, while Bauer is restrained

39:56 Bauer breaks a man's neck with his legs nigh-effortlessly while hanging onto a pipe

42:52 Bauer breaks a man's neck effortlessly

Show me [b]any proof of McClane showing this kind of proficiency in H2H. And McClane isn't as durable as Bauer either, as Bauer underwent 20 months of this:

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and then, in the 24-hour period after he was released, killed 51 people, including jump-kicking a sucide bomber out of a moving subway train (41:27 ).

Also, Bauer has tanked far worse explosions than McClane ( 37:15-39:07)

😆 The McBias just never stops! Bauer one-man raids terrorist compounds (42:00-46:00), slaughters Government Consulates (after withstanding his second knife wound to the abdomen) (103:56-104:57), and shoots down assault helicopters with a handgun (25:41-26:15)

Bauer rapes him in gun feats

Bauer tore a man's throat out with his teeth (40:25). McClane has never had a kill that impressive. Ever.

Also, as far as McClane somehow getting the jump on Bauer in the dark, Bauer pwns assault commandos who use night vision using stealth (31:57), so your McBiased claims are, once again, baseless. [/B]

Someone's still upset his Bauer loses in this setting. Maybe PM Imp and cry some more?

Originally posted by Impediment
To smooth things out, I want everyone to try to present some semblance of proof or feat that can back claims

Stop ignoring the mods like a retarded troll and post your (non-existent) evidence, or admit that Bauer kicks McClane's ass 24/7.

You really need to calm down and stop the whiny crying, I'd hate for Imp to have to deal with another of your tear laden PM spamming fits. He's the mod here, but he shouldn't have to deal with that kind of nonsense from a presumably grown man.

Repeat ad nauseum: It's been posted multiple times and you have each time either downplayed it or ignored and claimed it wasn't posted. ie two classic troll moves. You just did the former with Sadako's repeat posting, downplayed, cried and then turned to insults cos you can't have your way.

With as much respect as is possible to be due here; you're crazy Lesty. You ask for evidence then ignore it all the time as Robtard extremely correctly says. Pathetic.

No way even with all those 'feats' against piss weak TV goons does Bauer stand in the same league as McClane.
His ass has been saved for him all along, when Bauer goes crying to the mo-...erm... CTU team everytime he encounters serious shit that is way over his head. He'd have been killed even more often that he was already, without them.
And they aren't participants here.

Dodgy quality of TV opposition, dodgy ticker, dodgy feats compared to McClane's godlike abilities and cited feats.
Anything that faces McClane is destroyed. From people, cars, trucks, 747s, F-35s, Terrorist groups, teams of Seals/Marines, your arguments etc.
He is unkillable. Superhuman endurance, superhuman luck, and enough skill with bouncing things off of other things to be a world champion snooker player, champion card player and top geometry scholar in a million different dimensions simultaneously.
Way more impressive than animalistically biting another man's neck.

His feats of unaided survival against the opposition and elements make Jack "totally owes his current life to CTU" Bauer's a laughing stock.
His feats in the games also add a kill count running thousands more than Bauers and he is virtually unkillable with the ability to regen completely by drinking a coke, eating a hotdog, using a couple of bandaids, and gets extra lives by freeing hostages.

McClane absolutely stomps Bauer every time.

All facts WAY too scary for a troll like yourself to even think of admitting to after having invested half a year in trolling the shit out of these forums based on your butthurt and stubbornness.

McClane Dies Hard hence the title, Bauer dies whenever an old lady tazers him, whereas in the much tougher DH-verse even small chihuahuas take the charge and merely limp for a week.
Chihuahuas have much less size and mass for the charge to distribute to, and have much less resistance to such things than the average human. So not only is Bauer pathetic compared to McClane, and anyone in the DH verse, but he is also totally pathetic next to a small lapdog from the DHverse.

One day you'll wake up, smell the coffee and realise that you've wasted your life in butthurt trollery, especially as the people you've tried to get reactions from can see right through you as an complete imitator of trolls past and they have merely laughed at you the entire way even in (and especially in) your stroppiest moments.

My advice would be:

Continue to cry for a bit, get it out of your system, then chillout an accept the facts and free yourself from having to debase and embarrass yourself all the time with such childish trollery and you can go live a good life full of fun, getting laid and enjoying the sunshine. You'll be happier, I think.

Good day to you sir.

I've come to the conclusion that the opinions of McRetards who make completely biased, illogical, and baseless claims and who aren't willing to examine simple evidence isn't worth anything. It's clear the McClane camp are absolutely retarded idiots, and thus, their pathetic mental states can not and will not be swayed, no matter how much reason you try to induce.

The feats Saddie posted for McClane absolutely suck dick compared to Bauer, as I explained in-depth, and Robbi is too dense to remember anything from the films, so he just leeches on Saddie's argument. They both also overhype and downplay when it suits them (for instance, forgetting that the tazer in DH2 was used to knock a man unconscious). Such pitable people are utter trolls who are completely devoid of the basic processes of even comprehending basic logic, and thus have absolutely no opinion worth contributing.

To anybody who reads this in the future, ignore the opinions of the raving retarded McIdiots in this thread, and just look at the posted feats. Based on the evidence presented, Bauer wins. Anybody with even a quarter of a brain cell can obviously see that.

And for those too McBiased to see that, they are repugnant trolls who have nothing to offer but stupidity. Avoid them when possible

Awwwwwww poor likkle diddums.... 🙄 more baseless insults in really embarrassing butthurt and reality-detached childish, babyish rage... Way to flush yourself down the toilet of posting humanity with your angry butthurt insults.

*slow clap*

Noone really cares what you think buddy. You post like a single figure IQ spoilt brat, who cries times infinite when you can't have your dummy. And now you're slagging off all and sundry, throwing yer toys out the pram again showing the world how "deeply hurt" you are over the fact that your chosen fictional character in your butthurt troll vendetta thread actually loses to AVF McClane, your plan backfiring all over your face. The amount of rage and crying coming from you does not paint a picture of you having a fully developed adult mind.
(Are you under a psychiatrist, if you dont mind me asking?
Not to cause offense, but this is WAY beyond 'normal'...they may be able to help you...I only ask cause despite how you seem to be fixated on me and want to spend all day slagging me off, I still find it uncomfortable to see you suffering like this.)

Originally posted by Robtard
You really need to calm down and stop the whiny crying, I'd hate for Imp to have to deal with another of your tear laden PM spamming fits. He's the mod here, but he shouldn't have to deal with that kind of nonsense from a presumably grown man.

Repeat ad nauseum: It's been posted multiple times and you have each time either downplayed it or ignored and claimed it wasn't posted. ie two classic troll moves. You just did the former with Sadako's repeat posting, downplayed, cried and then turned to insults cos you can't have your way.